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House Expels George Santos From Congress
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/01/us/politics/santos-expulsion-vote.html
[No]
Nikema Williams
Robert C. Scott
[Present]
Jonathan Jackson
Al Green
Their no votes were because they wanted due process and judicial conviction before kicking him out.
Nikema Williams' statement:
Robert Scott's statement:
Congressional expulsion is not a “innocent ‘til proven guilty” situation and has never intended to be. Expulsion and conviction are unrelated, and these people struggle with basic elementary school level civic concepts for their reasonings.
"We want to drag things out when people are blatantly lying because there is a sliver of a chance that it might set a precedent that clearly does not apply to the things we are worried about, like false accusations."
If any of those processes took less time than the two year term of a Representative I might agree with them.
The two year term is key here. Let's say that instead of just being a conman and liar, he was accused of being put into office by Chinese or Russian spies. Should he be allowed to spend 2 years voting on things, attending confidential meetings, serving on committees, etc. while there's an investigation about whether or not he's an agent of a foreign government?
If he's found innocent of everything, all that happens is that he lost his job. He could run again, and being kicked out over lies and rumours would be a good grievance to campaign on. But, the potential damage he could do during the time it takes to investigate, try and convict him is enough to say that he should be removed now.
Which is bullshit, because his open, verified non-criminal lies should have been enough to have him expelled from Congress.
I guess we know which side of the truth these particular so called politicians are on.
Lying is the default position for politicians. Save the "so called" label for the rare honest one