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95 Tesla deaths have involved fires or Autopilot. How the EV maker fares in fatalities per million miles.::Tesla deaths from fires and Autopilot make up 24% of the fatalities in crashes. Learn about the death rates per million miles and vs other cars.

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[-] Burns@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

In the fourth quarter of 2022, Tesla said its cars using Autopilot recorded were involved in one crash per every 4.85 million miles — or 0.2 crashes per million miles. That's compared with around 0.7 crashes per million miles for Teslas not using Autopilot, and a US average of 1.5 crashes per million miles. The company has not released any figures for deaths per million miles, or the total number of miles driven, which would be needed to calculate that figure.

[-] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Why do we trust Tesla's figures? Elon is a pathological liar.

Independently collected evidence that does not rely on Tesla shows that Tesla's are not safe.

[-] weinermeat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is FUD. You must pay attention at all times when using Autopilot, the car begs you to do so. Not paying attention is equivalent to setting cruise control in any other vehicle and closing your eyes.

[-] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Tesla runs ads saying that their cars drive itself and they don't need a driver.

[-] weinermeat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Can you provide an example? I genuinely haven’t seen that but I live a relatively advertisement-free lifestyle. As a Tesla owner, I’ve never heard that from anyone in real life either.

[-] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
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[-] weinermeat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ok, counter point is this: https://electrek.co/2023/01/17/real-story-behind-tesla-staged-self-driving-video/

“The engineer added: “The intent of the video was not to accurately portray what was available for customers in 2016. It was to portray what was possible to build into the system.” Elluswamy also confirmed that the Autopilot team put the video together as a “demonstration of the system’s capabilities” at the request of Musk.”

I do remember that video and did not take it as an advertisement of what the product would do in 2016.

[-] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The first seconds of the video literally says "our cars don't need a driver".

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While it’s always easy to blame irresponsible drivers, when you market your product as “full self driving”, the behavioral consequences of that decision are obvious, and yes, you share in the blame for the carnage you helped create.

[-] weinermeat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Autopilot is not FSD. I agree the advertising of FSD is poor, but the FSD you’re thinking of is in beta, opt-in only, and also tries to force you to pay attention.

[-] bluekieran@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

He doesn't need to lie when he can just choose what to release - if they're not releasing deaths per million miles, it's because the numbers aren't as favourable.

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