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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Except Biden is an awful canidate. This. Right here. This is what cost the dems the election in 2016.

Stop it with the boomer “You’ll vote for who we tell you to vote for- and you’ll like it” bullshit. He’s soft in the largest generational blocs (millennials gen z) and we all know it.

Only deluded morons think that’s a good idea.

It’s okay to feel out other canidates.

[-] speff@disc.0x-ia.moe -3 points 11 months ago

He’s soft in the largest generational blocs (millennials gen z) and we all know it.

No-one in politics should give a fuck about millennials or zoomers because they don’t vote in large enough numbers to matter. If they voted, sure, cater to them. But as long as they keep having the woe is me, voting doesn’t do anything attitude, they’re going to keep getting ignored.

This is also why I think Bernie is a dumbass - not because I don’t agree with his policies, but because he tried to court people who won’t make the small effort to cast a ballot in his favor.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 5 points 11 months ago

Maybe people under 45 would vote more if there were candidates that took our concerns seriously

[-] speff@disc.0x-ia.moe 0 points 11 months ago

They have no reason to take your concerns seriously if there isn't an incentive for it. Seriously - why would they do favors for one group who may reward them when they can do favors for another which will reward them.

Once again, I'm going to point to Bernie - he tried to go appeal to the youth vote. See how he did in the primaries.

inb4 bernie-bros cry about being shafted by The Man. No - people just didn't vote for him.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago

They have no reason to take your concerns seriously if there isn't an incentive for it.

The incentive is votes from me and people like me.

Seriously - why would they do favors for one group who may reward them when they can do favors for another which will reward them.

Because they (presumably) want to win elections, and they don't get any closer to that goal by offering favors to people who would vote for them anyway.

Once again, I'm going to point to Bernie - he tried to go appeal to the youth vote. See how he did in the primaries.

Exactly. Bernie appealed to the youth and subsequently broke Obama's record for primary election turnout in that demographic.

The fact that he lost the primary doesn't change the fact that people are more likely to vote for candidates who offer them something and less likely to vote for candidates who don't.

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