576
City roads should be ‘ripped out completely’ to fight pollution, says government adviser
(www.telegraph.co.uk)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 02 Dec 2023
576 points (93.6% liked)
Fuck Cars
9663 readers
113 users here now
A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!
Rules
1. Be Civil
You may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.
2. No hate speech
Don't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.
3. Don't harass people
Don't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.
4. Stay on topic
This community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.
5. No reposts
Do not repost content that has already been posted in this community.
Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.
Posting Guidelines
In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:
- [meta] for discussions/suggestions about this community itself
- [article] for news articles
- [blog] for any blog-style content
- [video] for video resources
- [academic] for academic studies and sources
- [discussion] for text post questions, rants, and/or discussions
- [meme] for memes
- [image] for any non-meme images
- [misc] for anything that doesn’t fall cleanly into any of the other categories
Recommended communities:
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
You seem to be under the impression that a bicycle is more expensive to buy and run than a car. I'd love to see your working for this.
Renting a home close enough to your workplace to make biking every day practical is usually more expensive than owning a car and living further away - especially if you have a family and need more than a studio apartment. In that sense, owning a bicycle and not a car is more expensive.
That said, this could be fixed with better public transit.
And better zoning laws, allowing mixed zoning (within reason).
The average US commute is about 30 minutes.
That distance on bike in a city is about ~~10~~ 2.5 hours.
In a city you can go about 5 miles in 30 minutes on a bike
I live in a city with an MSA of, let’s call it 2 million people.
What is it going to cost to cram 2 million people into a 5 mile circle and not have roads to bring in food?
The average US commute distance is 20 miles one-way. That’s about 2 hours by bike at a slow-ish pace (10 mph). Did you accidentally calculate a walking pace (2 mph) which would take the 10 hours you suggested?
I think you are correct. Good Catch.
Before COVID, I used to often have a 45 minute commute by car or a 35 minute commute by bicycle. It's an 8 mile bike trip that is easy enough for me, a not particularly fit 56 year old, or a 9 mile car journey with 25 minutes of sitting in traffic. An electric bike would make it even easier to go further.
So, I'd question your numbers.