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Additionally, what changes are necessary for you to be able to use Linux full time?

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[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They're not doing anything wrong. This is my experience, as well as many many others. Why else would so many people and businesses overlook a completely free operating system? I've used all the "stable" distros.

If I reported issues to the devs, I wouldn't be doing anything else, and it wouldn't solve the problem I have TODAY. This is not a solution.

[-] somedaysoon@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are doing something wrong. Linux doesn't blow up by itself... my grandparents and wife both run it for the past 5 years and haven't had a single issue with it. So how is it that I know people that are completely tech illiterate and have no problems running it, but so many self-proclaimed "power users" here have issues with it?

Linux isn't going to wall you in and prevent you from breaking it. That's what I love about it, it gives you power and control over your machine, but if you don't have the knowledge to wield that power, then you shouldn't be fucking around with changing things. Stick with the package manager, and don't fuck with system configs... unless you actually understand how it effects the system.

Why else would so many people and businesses overlook a completely free operating system

There are many, many reasons... not a single one is stability.

[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you think that's the case. Check some big forums for each big distro right after a point update to read the tales of woe and breakage.

My personal experience with this has been:

Pop_OS broke after an update. Unrepairable as far as I could tell. And I tried hard. Happened to multiple.people there was a reddit thread about it.

Fedora broke on an update. Not sure if repairable. I didn't try. I had the most boring vanilla installation possible.

Arch has been unbootable twice over the years. And had to do many manual interventions. Both times it was fixable.

People are not lying to you when they say it breaks randomly. Just because it wasn't your personal experience doesn't mean it isn't a common experience. You just have been lucky so far.

[-] somedaysoon@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you think that’s the case. Check some big forums for each big distro right after a point update to read the tales of woe and breakage.

Again, Linux gives the user full control over it, and that includes the ability to break it... again, many people can not wield that power properly.

People are not lying to you when they say it breaks randomly. Just because it wasn’t your personal experience doesn’t mean it isn’t a common experience. You just have been lucky so far.

You're right, they are not technically lying, they are just too dumb to realize the thing they did to break it. When immutable distros become more popular, those people will be less likely to break things.

You just have been lucky so far.

It has absolutely nothing to do with luck. Don't get me wrong, some Linux distros are known for updates breaking them. Arch based distros are infamous for it... but those are bleeding edge, rolling release distros. Distros based on Debian? Redhat? Never fucking break... there are reasons 90% of the top web and cloud infrastructures run on Linux: security and stability.

And Windows breaks all the time with updates... multiple times Windows updates have deleted peoples' user files. That's the most erogenous thing an OS can do... delete important user files.

https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/microsoft-explains-why-windows-10s-october-2018-update-was-deleting-peoples-files/

https://www.howtogeek.com/658194/windows-10s-new-update-is-deleting-peoples-files-again/

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