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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

When the Teflon gets scratched then it starts leeching toxins into your food.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Where did you read this? What I've read has said the opposite. Here's one result for "teflon flakes"

When cooking, flakes of Teflon can break off into food. If these flakes are ingested, it is considered non-toxic.

If metal utensils are used with Teflon coated cookware, small pieces of Teflon can break off and get into the food. This is considered non-toxic. When swallowed, these pieces will travel through the intestines and come out in the stool intact without causing harm to the body.

https://missouripoisoncenter.org/is-this-a-poison/teflon

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I highly suggest watching the movie Dark Waters starring Mark Ruffalo. It covers the true story about a 30 year legal battle to hold DuPont liable for knowingly poisoning their factory workers and 99% of all life on planet earth with PFAS. After losing that court battle they stopped selling their original Teflon pans and started selling a new formulation which they claim is safe. But this is the same company that knowingly sold poison for half a century, bribed government regulatory officers to lie, bought politicians, and buried massive amounts of evidence against them. It's your choice if you believe them or not.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

I just really wanted to a source for your claim that scratching the surface causes it to "leech toxins into your body".

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago
[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Not that that's a great article, but it also says

It isn't entirely clear if the release of microplastics is dangerous, and researchers are calling for more studies into the possible impact of microplastic contamination during cooking.

It's talking about microplastic and they're not even sure if it is dangerous.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Like I said, it's up to you if you want to trust the company that knowingly poisoned 99% of all life on planet earth or not.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

I'm trusting the studies instead of trusting your word on it. That's the case here.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's not my word on it, but okay. The original DuPont factory workers trusted the studies and the EPA too. But it's your decision to make. Good luck. At least watch the movie, or research the issue.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's not my word on it, but okay.

You claimed it but haven't really provided anything to support it. So it's really just your word on that it's leaching toxins.

And if I compare your word vs. the studies saying that it is non-toxic, I'm gonna choose the studies over you. It's not a personal thing but I have no idea about your credential vs. these researchers.

At least watch the movie, or research the issue.

I have researched it but haven't found anything to support what you said. Rather the opposite. That's why I asked your help.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Again, DuPont spent billions of dollars pushing fake studies, bribing regulatory agencies to change safety standards, and all sorts of other shenanigans. So it's really down to the question "do you trust them this time?". I don't. You are going to do what you think is best for you. Hopefully they're not influencing the truth for the sake of profits this time around.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So it's really down to the question "do you trust them this time?".

No it isn't. It's whether you trust the studies or not. I do. You are suggesting there's a huge conspiracy with the studies being faked. I'd need something more to believe in this conspiracy, not just your gut feeling.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

There was a 30 year legal battle to expose their conspiracy. It has already been proven. They lost in a court of law that exposed all of their nefarious activities. There are literally millions of documents you can review if you're so motivated. So that's why I say it's up to you to choose if you believe they just completely changed their behavior and stopped engaging in that behavior or not.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

You are claiming they're doing it again, since you're claiming that all the new studies saying it's non-toxic is faked. I don't believe it. You do. I'm asking if you have anything concrete to show for it, same way as I asked if you have anything concrete to show about the claim of the toxicity.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

It took a team of attorneys 30 years to expose them for who they are. How the heck would I have proof that they're still doing it? No, I don't have proof. I just don't trust known liars. I understand your apprehension, especially in this age of conspiracy theories. But with DuPont it's not a theory, at least not historically. Sure, maybe they went completely legitimate after being exposed. I'm going to assume they didn't, since it's risk free for me.

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