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They shouldn't be allowed to serve as electors in any election.
In fact… they should not be allowed to take office of any stripe, and get slapped with a felony conviction and loose their voting privileges, too
I'm with you until that last one. No one should lose their voting rights short of losing their citizenship.
I didn't' make the rules... but if some black kid can loose his voting rights for a weekend's stash of weed, these guys can loose it for overthrowing their lawful government.
(on the whole, I agree felons shouldn't loose their voting rights. or maybe not permanently. willing to talk about that)
Not all laws are just. Sometimes our society and government must make corrections to unjust laws (see your example of weed possession). If a felon is a victim of an unjust law then stripping off them of their right to vote silences a crucial voice in making these corrections.
It also opens the door to persecution, creating and enforcing laws that target undesirables, removing their voting rights to further a political agenda or garner political power.
Further, it's another example of how the American penal system is punitive and not rehabilitative.
It's best not to decide what citizens can and can not vote based on specialized criteria because who decides that criteria?
Gonna preface this with “I have no answers”- because I don’t.
You’re quite right. On the other hand, however, if they can still vote despite being insurrectionists… they can vote for people who enable and agree with their assholery.
While the entire system needs to be scrapped, I’m perfectly okay with fascists dumb enough to go so far as actual, bonafide, insurrection losing their ability to vote.