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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

To be clear, I'm not arguing against sensible legislation, there are many things that can and should be done starting with an actual analysis if what could or should have prevented any specific shooting, once you realize that "banning guns" is off the table thanks to the second amendment.

An example I like to cite is the guy who shot up Michigan State. He had previously been arrested on a felony gun charge, was allowed to plead guilty to a misdemeanor, did his time, did his probation, had a clean background check, bought guns and shot up the school.

Now, we already prevent felons from owning guns. Maybe, just maybe, if someone is arrested on a felony gun charge, that is something that should not be allowed to be pled down to a misdemeanor? Ya think?

Alternately, since we block felons from owning guns, as well as domestic abusers, and people charged with crimes that can land them in prison for more than a year, how about we block people with ANY gun charge from owning a gun? Felony OR misdemeanor? They've already proven they can't be trusted with a gun.

These are the sorts of conversations we need to have but aren't having because people get so caught up in knee jerk actions that can't be taken.

I remember years ago the call was for "common sense gun reform!" and the action was "Did you know, people on the no-fly list can buy guns? How is that common sense??!??" Obama was making that call.

To which my reaction was "How many of these shooters were on the no-fly list? Oh, right, NONE of them? Good jorb!"

And there's no set process for adding or removing people from the no fly list and it, itself, appears to be non-sensical:

https://www.aclu.org/documents/statement-david-c-nelson

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

I'm sure that reply was fascinating but you've already revealed that you're full of shit, so I'm not going to read it.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Proving, yet again, why you lose the debate.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Whatever helps you self soothe.

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