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Did the ceasefire include hostage release?
Yes. shame nobody seems to care about them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No it didn't. It 'demanded' their release which Hamas would have said nah to obviously.
Hamas wants to release the hostages, as part of a ceasefire deal that actually secures their interests (mostly freeing Palestinian ~~hostages~~ detainees and loosening the blockade). Like it or not this is the status quo Israel created with their won hands.
It did not. I've never seen a time when the UN and individual countries didn't protest the holding of hostages.
Did you read my link?
Finally found it.
Means that both are guaranteed to happen. But only one party is part of the UN and bound to the decision.
That is the reason for the veto IMO.
I would hope so, it's literally the 2nd paragraph 🤣
That's why it's the security council. They could actually enforce it. But it's a shame getting the hostages out in exchange for stopping the mass murder is not enough motivation.
It would be simple. Hamas could surrender and lay down their weapons. Release the hostages. But, no. They still fire rockets at Israel, they still fight house to house.
Yawn. Anyway, I only commented to inform you that the hostages were included in the vetoed resolution.
But they were actually not as I explained.
I think you are being ridiculous. If I understand your point, according to you the only way they could be included is if Hamas was a member of the UN. This is not a realistic bar.
The hostages were literally part of the agreement. They were part of the last one too, and many were released. Suggesting they weren't included here is borderline delusional
You make a resolution only binding one party for a cease-fire, while there is no contingency that hostages be released I would veto it too. If there was a contingency then we would see what has previously happened.
Israel could also simply stop trying to occupy and colonize Palestinian soil but they sure as fuck won't.
In 2005 Isreal actually physically removed every Israeli from Gaza.
Then proceeded to blockade them and kill their economy.
Not quite, Gaza elected Hamas in 2006 and started collecting materials. Then Israel blockaded some goods.
The blockade started in 2005. 3 months before Hamas is elected. Also "started collecting materials" what do you expect a government with a genocidal explicitly hostile neighbor to do?
https://twitter.com/GonenYonatan/status/1732514165984518175?t=m6RVjwA06Ij8Tkfln5xxDw&s=19
I'm not even sure what you're trying to say, and honestly I don't care.
Fair enough. I don't care about your drivel either.
How magnanimous of them to have the people leave who shouldn't of been there in the first place. Then proceed to screw over their own people they brought back after the fact.
Sure, sounds like colonizing doesn't it?