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I feel the same way about biometrics. When I tell friends, family, and coworkers about this, they look at me like I'm crazy. You can change your password. You can't change your retinal pattern, fingerprint, etc.
And I don't care how much someone tries to convince me on how securely it's stored inside the phone hardware or the cloud. You are trusting every single coder and engineer who has a hand in designing and maintaining these things. Not to mention hackers who always find a way to breach.
So far I've avoided using any of mine anywhere.
I've never thought about this before. One thing I'm curious to hear from your perspective is the idea of a single password being irrelevant. I've had my credit card info stolen before and it's never been a concern of not being able to convince my bank it wasn't me, the amount of corroboratating evidence is just overwhelming. In a world where a single point of failure ,such as a biometric, is irrelevant simply because the amount of information to convincingly recreate a person is more trouble than it's worth. Additionally I've never had a biometric be the last line of defense, somewhere along the line a password is always required.
Idk love to hear thoughts on this admittedly am low key drunk so maybe am saying dumb stuff
I have to agree with you. My biggest concern is not if they have my fingerprint because there isn't really much they can do with it. What I am concerned about is how much data they gather (and not just about be, for the same reason, but from groups) and what they can do with it to alter my world view.
I agree but I personally just assume every techgiant knows everything about me and not to trust anything I see through a screen without vetting it. I'm younger than Google so it's possible they knew about me before I was even born, whats the point in trying to hide myself from an entity that doesn't care about me but already knows more about me than everyone in my life possibly excluding myself.
Can malicious people who steal you retinal and fingerprint duplicate it to unlock whatever it was protecting?
I think it's only a matter of time, if it hasn't happened already. When you scan your bio-metric data (fingerprint or whatever) it gets stored somewhere as a pattern of numbers. A clever and talented bad actor could, in theory, recreate or spoof that pattern of numbers in a variety of different ways. Hackers are very good at finding exploits that application coders never thought of. We have all sorts of virtual devices that emulate physical devices. It stands to reason that "virtual fingerprints" could easily be a thing.
Also, bio-metrics are "super easy and convenient" which has a tendency to make people get a little too apathetic / casual about security. And by people I mean everyone involved from the user up through all the layers of engineers and testers to the C-suite.
It's an over-arching problem with security in general. Good security is both inconvenient and expensive. People want profits and convenience.
I'm going to hold off on using my bio-metrics for as long as I can. Though I can imagine a future where that is no longer possible, unfortunately