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White House threatens to veto anti-EV bill just passed by US House::The bill would prevent the EPA from enforcing tougher new pollution standards.

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[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

The majority of EVs weigh less than quite a few SUV and pickup ICE vechiles driving around today. If this is such a concern, why isn’t the whistle also being blown about these vehicles?

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

People are not replacing their ICE SUVs with BEV sedans... And ICE sedan vs a BEV sedan is 30-100% heavier. I would presume the same would happen to SUVs as well. And sure enough we can look!

Volvo makes a car that's effectively the same, but one electric and the other gas. The EX90 and the XC90

EX90 - 6213 lbs
XC90 - 4522 lbs.

Gee golly! Dead on what I stated.

Ford F150 lightning! ~6,500 lbs
F-150 XLT SuperCrew w/ 4wd? 4,705 lbs.

If this is such a concern, why isn’t the whistle also being blown about these vehicles?

Because we've been ignoring this problem for decades and nobody actually listens to people who talk about actual problems in this country. Also, because people like you don't care to read articles like the one I linked above.

Increasing weight will be a multiplicative amount of damage that it does to the roads/bridges. A 30% increase in weight may be something like a 2-3x amount of wear that it causes on a road. It's well known that trucks and SUVs do probably about double(if not more) the damage to roads as sedans (https://www.insidescience.org/news/how-much-damage-do-heavy-trucks-do-our-roads and https://www.profitgreenly.com/p/road-damage-fees-and-profit). Car companies aren't going to tell you that this is happening... They would sell less cars then. Government has been telling you for decades... you ignore them now. Or worse, your local government doesn't give a shit and spends the money like morons anyway.

I've been reading these articles for decades now... and every news org has covered it at some point probably many times over the years. examples:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/17/why-us-bridges-are-in-such-bad-shape.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/29/thousands-of-us-bridges-in-poor-condition-as-pace-of-repair-slows-report.html

And I could find more... but google has become really bad over the years at finding "historic" web pages.

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