90
Risks of CPR (lemmy.world)

If proper CPR involves compressing the chest so much such that the ribcage might break - doesnt that breakage risks a bone puncturing the heart?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Depends on the material, I have to teach 30:2 so that people don't freeze. There's a special course for people who are responsible for children, they learn a different algorithm, but I haven't taught that course, so I'd have to read up on it. I believe that it's still 30:2, but with 5 blows initially.

So I guess, just do 30:2 and don't worry about the age part.

[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

When I was taking my drivers exam we were taught this in first aid. Am quite surprised other countries don't have this. We have a somewhat short lecture of 2h and we have to pass written and practical exam in first aid. It's not huge amount of knowledge but it's better than nothing. We are taught to recognize burns, lacerations, different type of bleeding, CPR and few other things.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Am quite surprised other countries don't have this

Careful dealing in absolutes there, a Danish driver's license requires an 8hr first aid course.

[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I meant more countries, not all of the other.

[-] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Here in Amuricastan, we don’t need no stinking class to learn how to drive a 3000 pound death missile. A signature, a 70% on a multiple-choice exam, and a cursory vision check (can you see through your eyes) is all we need for our FREEDUM MACHINES. First aid is for sissies.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

There's so many things, where your country has decided to go "you guys are doing x? We're doing x^-1 because fuck you, that's why!"

One of the most baffling things is your driver's ed. I spent the equivalent of 2.8K USD to get a license, I had to attend

  • a medical exam
  • an 8hrs first aid course,
  • 29hrs of theoretical driving ed (laws, signage etc),
  • 4hrs on a closed circuit to learn how to start and park,
  • 16hrs of practical driving, and
  • 4hrs on a closed circuit with slippery conditions

before being allowed to even attempt a multiple choice exam (which 28% fail on the first try) and then a practical exam.

All the while you can get a license at 16yo, and it's wham bam thank you mam easy to get. While a Danish teen can't drive alone before they're 18 and have spent all that time and money.... Smh and don't get me started on guns, that's even more different.

[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago
[-] crashoverride@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago
[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Depends on who you are listening to. I just checked with the mandated lesson plan ("Basal førstehjælp til børn", or "Basic first aid for children", published by the Danish First Aid Council (DFAC), December 2021). I have to adhere to this plan when teaching that course. Among other things, the main differences are:

  • 5 blows (page 6) then 30:2 at 100-120 BPM (page 7).
  • If you're alone, then you do 1 min of CPR before calling emergency services (page 7).

It's the current lesson plan, and the council tends to follow the European Resuscitation Council's guidelines... Most of the time. While I haven't read up on the ERC's guidelines for some time now, I also know that the DFAC may take other aspects into consideration when creating their lesson plans.

[-] crashoverride@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'm a CNA in a hospital, our guidelines are always call for help first, then start 15:2 CPR.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Exactly, as a CNA you have different guidelines, and resources. I used to work as a temp CNA (a job med students can train for in my country), and naturally we were expected to not just do the layman's CPR.

But the courses I teach are designed for non-medical persons, and they, more than anything, need to not freeze up in the moment. So they are taught to do it one way, and one way only. Is it optimal in every case? Of course not, but in most cases there's a net positive effect.

this post was submitted on 09 Dec 2023
90 points (95.9% liked)

No Stupid Questions

35868 readers
277 users here now

No such thing. Ask away!

!nostupidquestions is a community dedicated to being helpful and answering each others' questions on various topics.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All post titles must include a question.

All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.



Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it's in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.

If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.



Rule 7- You can't intentionally annoy, mock, or harass other members.

If you intentionally annoy, mock, harass, or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.



Credits

Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!

The greatest banner of all time: by @TheOneWithTheHair!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS