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Supreme Court agrees to quick review of Trump’s presidential immunity claim
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This should not be an interlocutory appeal. Anybody else would have to wait for the final decision for this. Can any lawyer explain why they're granting this appeal?
Because it is a very important case and Trump's current defense strategy hangs purely on whether or not he was acting as President when he was giving the Jan 6, 2021 speech or whether he was campaigning as a private citizen. Also as to whether anyone but the President at the time can even answer that question.
At this moment nothing else even matters, so they do not even need to prove whether what he said makes him culpable for his followers' actions that day.
If SCOTUS decides that the DOJ under their current policy can indict a former President for actions as a sitting President, then that goes out the window and severely weakens Trump's case.
This is even more important because the elections are coming up next year and if Trump can keep the case in court and he wins the elections, then he stands a pretty good chance that regardless of what happens, the case is going to die.
Even if it doesn't die, and let's say he goes to prison in August, does he stay on the ballots? What happens to the RNC? What happens when half the people's choice is effectively taken away? What if people write in Trump and/or state's just simply do not remove him and he wins anyway while in prison? What do we do while we figure it all out?
It is very important that this question is answered as quickly as possible.
The reason for skipping the appeals court, where this would most certainly go, is that the whole case gets automatically stayed while the appeal is happening. Which is, of course, Trump's aim - to delay the process. Jack Smith is basically saying, "No delay for you."
This is some sovereign citizen bullshit. Of course that's the kind of the argument Trump's lawyers would make. It should take 2 seconds to slap this down, except with how corrupt the SC is I don't have any confidence they won't just give it to him.
Thomas will probably vote to give him immunity, and maybe Alito. Possibly another conservative pickup, but not enough to give Trump what he wants. After striking down abortion rights, the Supreme Court got cold feet, and isn't willing to rule quite so arbitrarily.
For that matter, even Thomas might not. He might rub enough braincells together to remember who is currently President, and what a ruling in Trump's favor would let Biden do. It's kinda like how conservatives turned against the Patriot act once they realized Hillary might be President.
I assume if the supreme court shoots him down now, he can't appeal for it later.