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submitted 11 months ago by Silverseren@kbin.social to c/world@lemmy.world

Israeli officials are facing backlash after years of Prime Minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu quietly allowing Hamas to remain in power.

But reporting in the New York Times has revealed that Netanyahu's government was more hands-on about helping Hamas: they helped a Qatari diplomat bring suitcases of cash into Gaza, indirectly boosting the militant organization, according to the report.

The calculus — the Times reported on Sunday, citing Israeli officials, Netanyahu's critics, and the man's own reported statements — was to keep Hamas strong enough to counteract the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, allowing Netanyahu to avoid a two-state peace solution and keep both sides weak.

Israeli security officials got it wrong; they didn't think Hamas was capable, or even interested, in launching a large attack against the Jewish state.

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[-] Sparlock@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

You replied by calling people communist for some reason. Yet you claim we are brainless?

How about you try again, and this time think about your words a bit so they make a little sense.

[-] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago

What do you think the ml in lemmy stands for? Look at where people I reply to comment. What is the current trend online?

Seems like I gave it more thought than you did.

[-] Sparlock@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

No I'm still waiting for you to tell me what you think communist means.

[-] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago

I will give you an actual answer if you answer this question:

Do you deny that the vast amount of support that hamas is getting western online comes from dsa, progressives, tankies, communists and socialists?

[-] Sparlock@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It comes from people that haven't bought the Zionist line, don't accept Israeli propaganda at face value or that have eyes and can see what is happening in Gaza. The rest is your personal bias getting in the way. This is evidenced by your desire to call any disagreement anti-Semitism to quell discussion. Being anti-Israel bombing the shit out of Gaza is not anti-Semitism and if you cannot see that distinction you are pointless to talk to. That you see support for Palestinians as support for Hamas is another glaring Blindspot you seem to have.

Stop using anti-Semitism as a cudgel when you cannot defend the indefensible, it is gross.

[-] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You didnt answer the question, when it is clear that is mostly a progressive left issue. If you wont be honest, then i dont have to engage in good faith either.

But I give the answer nonetheless.

It used to be someone that supported labourer rights and owning the means of production.

Now, it refers to all the idiots polluting, by association, actual, valid leftists movements via supporting terrorists. Yall are hurting our efforts for climate change, police reform, immigration reform, etc, by making everyone else think we support terrorists.

I agree that being anti zionist is not anti semitism. But so many progressives are also just targetting jews for being jews and refuse to admit that the hamas goal is genocide of jewish people in totality.

I never said support for palestine is support for hamas. But yall refuse to admit there is no path forward for palestine without the eradication of hamas

[-] Sparlock@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

No I'd didn't answer your intentionally biased framing of your question the way you wanted. And then you say I'm being dishonest. I'm done with you. You are just a hypocrite and genocide apologist and not worth the time to deal with. Fuck off.

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