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Don't need a time machine, Clyde - the solution is still the same. Dismantle the white supremacist settler-colonialist state that is the cause of the conflict.
Do tell... were you also around in the 80s to tell people how dismantling the Apartheid-state in South Africa was "unrealistic?"
I wasn't. But would you do with all these people living there for the last fifty years? It's easier to imagine that in crimean case where it was only a decade at most, you can claim all property-related papers illigitimate since they were approved by an illigitimate government, and here it goes... But in Israel itso happens this administration lasted for two, three generations, and wasn't questioned since that. How to go about that? Would you, like, revoke the citizenship of that country from those born there? Would you revoke their property rights to homes they lived in for 20+ years? And are regular people there responible for their country being an apartheid state?
How exactly you see it happening?
Guess you'd think I'm a stupid israeli apologist, okay. So to conserve my and your time, can you write your solution to that problem short, like in five bullet points? What would you do if you have ultimate power over this plot of land?
That's not up to me, is it? That's for Palestinians and ex-Israelis to decide.
What would be the point of revoking the citizenship of a state that doesn't exist any more?
I'm assuming you're not talking about people like this?
What did you think we mean when we say Israel is a white supremacist settler colonialist state?
You're asking the wrong questions, Clyde. A better question would be... would all the Palestinian villages that the Israelis destroyed and tried to erase from history be rebuilt?
Yes. To what degree such responsibility extends can be determined on a case by case basis, but the short answer is... yes. For instance, the shareholders in Israeli corporations are vastly, vastly more responsible than simply somebody who was coerced into doing two years of military service in the IDF - and that extends to people outside of Israel, too.