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Lucid’s $50,000 Tesla Challenger Under Development, CEO Suggests
(insideevs.com)
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this post was submitted on 24 Dec 2023
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50k is not mass market.
Exactly.
We don't need 50K "challengers" to Tesla.
We need 20K challengers that real peoole might be able to afford.
Can you even buy a new ICE car for $20.000? Last time I was looking for a car a 5 year old Citroen berlingo cost around that. What can you get for 20.000? A basic Toyota yaris? Hybrid yaris costs <30k but I feel like when Americans say they want $20.000 electric car they mean electric SUV with 600km range. Yeah, that's not happening.
20k and look like actual cars (sedans). The bubbly, hatchback-like design of most EVs are ugly AF.
Who cares?! Affordable, Safe, Enough range, Enough space, Comfy.
Mass market options exist, but everyone laughs at Leafs and Bolts.
There are plenty of cars coming out of China at that price point. With decent range figures too.
That doesn’t stop them from existing, or being highly competitive. It’s up to western and Japanese car makers to compete rather than pretend it’s not happening.
The cars also pass NCAP/ANCAP testing with 5 stars.
You don't have to like them, but explain to me how it's a 'deathtrap' if it passes the same safety standards as a car produced anywhere else. A 5 star NCAP car doesn't become less safe just because it's Chinese.
6 of the top 10 safest cars tested in 2023 are from Chinese automakers.
They are producing and exporting safe and affordable electric vehicles and they're seeing great success in Europe and Oceania. Tarrifs are the only thing protecting the US auto market from similar inroads.
One would expect increasing the number of cars sold should drive economies of scale nine manufacturing.
Presumably increasing demand should lead to ramping up of production over time, as it has in the past for pretty much everything
Things that happen over time need a starting point.
https://www.teslarati.com/hyundai-20000-minicar-electric-vehicle-europe/amp/
Well you said tesla is the only one that can do it,and they are not, I reckon they are the one of the companies that can't do it because they need big margins to expand
Also
17.5k pounds
https://heycar.com/uk/blog/n2022-dacia-spring-electric--price--specs-and-relea
Citroen ec3
21K pounds
https://ev-database.org/uk/car/2039/Citroen-e-C3#
Tesla is about to have a bad time
No, mate the big automakers will take the market from tesla, VW group, Stellantis, Hyundai group
Not to mention the chinese, teslas market share has already stalled
Google says tesla sold 5 million total vehicles.
vW group sold 8.7 Million in 2022 alone
You are also wrong on tesla selling the most cars it's BYD
https://www.statista.com/chart/30758/most-popular-plug-in-electric-car-brands/
I saaid vehicles not bevs, they are switching their line up to electric, tesla wont be able to keep up.
So what if you can't get byd in the us? World exists outside the us
Didn't say they would don't move goalposts
No i said they are the ones selling the most evs not tesla and I didnt say that they will overtake them in the us marketshare
None of those are chinese... and they will
Hyundai is working on it
https://www.teslarati.com/hyundai-20000-minicar-electric-vehicle-europe/amp/
I am guessing it will be more of a i10 or i20 sized car
Cheapest tesla is 50k so target price is right
Does that have autopilot or FSD?
It's down from the $15k price tag to just $12k!
But for $10k* I'll let my 9-year-old nephew chauffeur you who probably drives just as well.
*) booster seat included!
Mass market means mass production. Have they proven capable of that yet?