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submitted 11 months ago by danielquinn@lemmy.ca to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

His original post , titled I can't sleep, is some brilliant writing. When we talk about the chilling effect that criticism of Israel creates in industries everywhere (including ours) this is what that looks like.

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[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago

Anti-Zionism and antisemitism are not the same thing, but neither are they mutually exclusive.

[-] sab@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Anti-fascism and anti-semitims are also not mutually exclusive. Anti-communism and anti-consumerism are not mutually exclusive. Anti-war and anti-liberalism are not mutually exclusive. Anti-abortion and anti-gay rights are not mutually exclusive.

Hell, few things are mutually exclusive. You had a handful of god-damn Jewish Nazis and one fucking honorary aryan during the war. So not even Semitism and anti-Semitism are mutually fucking exclusive.

Things not being mutually exclusive is a pretty fucking moot argument.

[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 11 months ago

Things not being mutually exclusive is a pretty fucking moot argument.

It's not an argument.

[-] sab@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago
[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago

It was a statement. Why do you find it so upsetting that something antisemitic might also be called anti-Zionist?

[-] sab@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Anti-Semitism is used for people who dislike Jews, anti-Zionism is opposition to a political ideology. One of these is deplorable, the other is vital to any non-totalitarian society, whether you agree with it or not.

By blurring the line between the two you are at best either legitimizing anti-Semitism or pushing towards a totalitarian mindset where political ideologies cannot be challenged. In reality you're doing both. And even worse, I think you know what you're doing.

[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

By blurring the line between the two you are at beist either legitimizing anti-Semitism or pushing towards a totalitarian mindset where political ideologies cannot be challenged

How am I blurring the line?
What did I say that made it more difficult for you or anyone else to determine what is anti-Zionism and what is antisemitism?
Did I suggest some change to the definition of what constitutes something being labeled one or the other?
Did I suggest a method for determining what is antisemitic or anti-Zionist?
Did I make a false statement?

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