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I hadn’t broken Poland’s abortion laws – so why did the police raid my flat?
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The new gov't does seem to holding back on their election promise to change the laws, so they are part of the problem.
It's been two weeks. They've been in power for two weeks.
And you have to understand, this isn't caused by the right-wing passing some law, oh no, no... The Constitutional Court declared abortion unconstitutional. To change this, the new government needs to either change the constitution (requires a massive majority in Parliament), or completely rebuild the current justice system, replacing the CC justices responsible for that ruling (which will take a long time). Any attempt to do it with a simple act will get struck down by the right-wing in just the same way.
That is nothing to say about the fact that about a third of government coalition doesn't want complete legalisation, only a return to the old "compromise"
EDIT: And they did manage to do a lot in those two weeks so far, it's not like this is the only thing they promised to do.
Can they decriminalize it? I understand that legalization is very tricky institutionally, but there is a vast spectrum of improvements they can make to go from the hell described by this woman to something much more civilized.
A: Read my comment again, it explains what happened, and what can be done to change this.
B: The situation described was under the previous government. They were (for all intents and purposes) the same as Republicans when it came to abortion.
The Polish society at large remains split (unfortunately), and the part that doesn't want legalisation of abortion is also most politically active in terms of voter mobilisation (i.e. they tend to move their asses on election days) and the moderate right (which is part of the current government) doesn't want to potentially alienate those voters.
Right now it seems that the best course of action will be a decriminalisation, and a return to the previous status quo: abortion is legal when the life of women is at stake. This would mean that while getting one wouldn't be illegal, Polish hospitals wouldn't give you one. Any liberalisation beyond that seems to be an issue for a national referendum, which the moderate right is neutral on (i.e. they would allow one to happen, and would not stop things if liberalisation won)
The new government just sacked the entire staff of TPV, the previous right wing government's propaganda TV station.