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Question, if I vote for Biden and he wins and keeps supporting genocide, does that make me partly responsible for these kids dying? Don't love the prospect of having dead inocent children's blood on my hands.
Your choice is is kill a little or kill a lot. Trump has promised to deport all Muslims and in response to Palestine deaths, said he wants to see how it plays out.
just to be clear is Biden the kill a little option or the kill a lot one?
I guess as guilty as not voting for Biden and arms sales continuing regardless of who is in power. Your tax money still foots the bill and the cheque is in your collective names.
No wait if whatever I do child murders stay the same then it's not my fault, I'm only responsible for stuff that I have control over, by definition. I'm worried about how much influence I personally have over how many innocent Palestinian kids are murdered.
A little bit, like saying German citizens were responsible for the holocaust for not standing up against the Nazis. They should have but when faced with violent repression you don't necessarily blame them for not doing more. There is widespread knowledge of the military-industrial complex and the global stream of death for profit, but how many people are blocking ports to stop weapons shipments? We can vote for whoever but there is so much more that needs to be done.
Which is kind of true right? I mean aren't German citizens a bit to blame for the holocaust? And in my hypothetical case we'd be even worse since we'd be actively voting to keep the holocaust alive not just being passive observers.
I think so, at least partially, average German citizens did know what was happening, plenty of people did resist, especially earlier on, with the brutality of the Nazis it's hard to say if they could have done more.
Today I don't think there is a politician who would have much of a chance to win that wouldn't support Israel at least as much as Biden, so I would say a person doesn't share much blame just for voting. We can vote for whoever but there is more we can do, like boycotting companies that support Israel or organizing actions aimed at stopping arms shipments.
US elections are very much a “best worst choice” as the candidate is chosen by the party machine, and selected to best meet the party’s need and win by at least 1 vote.
If you voted for Obama, your responsible for the drone bombing deaths of children.
If you voted for Bush, you're responsible for the children who died in Iraq.
If you voted for Trump, you're an idiot but I digress. If you are an American who votes, you've elected people who authorize military action that leads to civilian death.