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If only! Biden is maybe 5% of a Johnson at best.
..and there’s no way he compares at all to Roosevelt. That’s actually pretty insulting to FDR’s legacy.
Eh Johnson was ok, but he also fully engaged Vietnam. When told to back down he started bombing runs in the north. Not a great legacy to have as it still has repercussions and veterans suffering from it like my dad and uncles. Not a great legacy to have to your name.
But agree on FDR, what a champion. We need fighters like him back in politics.
Yeah, and of course handling of the Gulf of Tonkin incident leading up to Vietnam with Johnson, not a great legacy in some regards.
But as you pointed out with Roosevelt, Johnson was also willing to roll up his sleeves and use the bully pulpit properly to get meaningful legislation passed - laws which materially benefited the lives of regular working class Americans. Consider how he absolutely steamrolled the Dixiecrats on the way to passing the civil rights act.
We haven’t seen Dems fight like that for us for a long time. Biden and Manchin are basically blowing kisses at each other during press conferences while ramming through the Mountain Valley Pipeline at a time when climate change is undeniably reaching critical mass. It’s such a disheartening reality.
I think the vast majority of Americans would rally behind someone who truly fought for us, for progress. Polling agrees if you look at the data. But how can we get them onto the national stage when the corporate mainstream media is poised to absolutely assassinate their character, image, and even their livelihoods, on the way up?
That’s the biggest issue is getting them In mainstream. It’s decided the candidates they want to show us. They’ll take anyone who fights and label them as crazy and unhinged or outright unable to get things done. They want moderates or people like rfk jr who are actually batshit. So we get one extreme and one middle ground.
The dems know this as well, while the right can pick the absolute worst and extreme candidate and gain support. Like wtf
Honestly, I'll take a small percentage of Roosevelt than nothing. So, Biden gets my vote next year.