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Biden wishes he was FDR.
But I'll give him a cookie for trying to cancel student debt, and then refusing to give up when SCOTUS decided to fuck us over.
You fucked yourself over by not showing up at the polls 6 years ago at the numbers needed to keep Trump out of office.
Voting (and not voting) has consequences. You fucked around, then you found out.
(to be clear, I am using the generic "you" here, not trying to beat up on OP)
Yup. When your choice is between boring, middle-of-the-road corporatist and 100% concentrated evil, you must choose the less-destructive candidate for the good of the nation, even if they don't "do it" for you.
Trump won because people fell asleep, didn't care and Hilary was unlikable. Let's just hope that next year they keep that in mind when the polls open.
They thought Hillary was unlikable, so instead let's let a corrupt fascist win.... brilliant!1!!
I'd like to think the American people have learned their lesson, but let's be honest, we never learn.
Through recession and boom, war and peace, pandemic and climate change, there is one constant in this modern world... Americans will never learn from their past.
Hilary was unlikable, but I think to many people so was Trump. The difference was that in 2016 Hilary was associated with old school, status quo politics. Her campaign didn't really understand that there was (and still is) a large part of the voting population that wanted/wants change. Trump just happen to pick up on that sentiment which helped him pull people off the couch to vote.
This isn't strictly true. People did show up to vote for Hillary, but not in electorally advantageous locations. Let's not forget that she won the popular vote, it just wasn't enough.
That's like saying a team shot the most free-throws in a sport like basketball where the winner is the one who scored the most points. Or in football, having the most minutes of possession, but not scoring enough points.
The metric to winning is rather clear. Whether it is football, basketball or winning the White House.
You don't get enough people out there across the country to win the EC and you lose. Period. So yeah, it is indeed strictly true.
Seems a lot like he gave up. What we got instead can't be called half measures. Hell, they can't even be called quarter measures.
Oh, you made it so for 6 months, non-payments don't hit your credit? What happens after those 6 months? And interest continues to accrue during that time so you'll find yourself more underwater than before.
Oh, you reduced the percent of income that is to be spent on paying off the debt? Did you adjust the interest rates too? No? So you're extending people's length of debt. Cool.
This isn't even tossing a bandaid at the problem. It's handing someone a self-help book while they're on the ground bleeding out.
I wouldn't call pursuing another path to forgive $10K giving up, I mean it's literally the opposite of giving up.
Also its 12 months, not 6 months
And you are ignoring the benefits of the SAVE Plan https://www.npr.org/2023/07/14/1187545921/student-loan-forgiveness-save-repayment
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/06/30/fact-sheet-president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-provide-debt-relief-and-support-for-student-loan-borrowers/
https://www2.ed.gov/policy/highered/reg/hearulemaking/2021/idrfactsheetfinal.pdf
Biden is doing a ton considering he has had 0 help from Congress who has power of the purse. If you want interest rates adjusted you gotta go through Congress.
The dude you replied to isn't here to debate or exchange ideas. He's here to make sure you don't believe in the process and don't turn out to vote. It's the same strategy the right used in the run up to the 2016 and 2020 election. Vote out every scumsucking republican you have especially in the statehouse where the real power lies. Get everyone you know to get registered and get them to the voting booth.
I agree that's a high possibility, either way though I like to respond to posts like that for other potential readers. If OP wants to admit they are wrong, great, but it's important we counter these kinds of posts with facts so others understand the truth as I agree disinformation is a powerful tool so it needs to be cut off at the knees.