I don't know why you are giving me attitude. I'm even on your side. No wonder you have such a bad reputation and no one listens to you, people like you giving the movement a bad name.

Look most cities had streets in them before the car. Most major streets have been there for over 100 years so they aren't new. My city and the larger cities near me have one lane in each direction for a major roads. There is no space to add a train line there and being realistic they are not going to remove the only road between a major area of the city and its downtown.

So what's the realistic solution? To make a new street. That would require buying housing and destroying them, or building an underground which costs even more. Having said that even if you did take out the road and put rail in it wouldn't work. The streets are too windy and too steep.

There is no.metion of how to get new estates built around the car onto public transport either. They aren't dense enough.

I think it's a valid question to ask how this would be achieved. You can scream into the void all you like about cars being the wrong answer but to actually make changes and transition is a different matter.

Yes places that have 4 lanes you can reduce it. But that's not going to remove cars entirely. Just remove them from that one road. That's not enough.

Also looking at the past isn't entirely fair. It was a lot easier to make people sell their house for the greater good than it is now.