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We literally had half the number of people on this planet 50 years ago. We had one quarter less than 100 years ago. The problem is overshoot, not too few people now. Serious decline is what we need.
malthusianism is next to eugenics
I disagree. You honestly think we can keep growing to eternity?
>You honestly think we can keep growing to eternity
I didn't say that
I don’t say you did. Just following your logic. And you agree we cannot grow forever. So when should we stop? You think we can’t stop now without dire consequences. But some future generation has to. So, who gets to face the consequences that you want to avoid for yourself?
>who gets to face the consequences that you want to avoid for yourself?
you're making assumptions
I’m all ears
all I want to avoid is eugenics. I don't know what vague"consequences"you're referencing.
I’m not advocating eugenics. Where did I say only certain people should reproduce and others shouldn’t? Who is putting words into people’s mouths now? I’m done with you.
I'm pointing out that malthusianism is next to eugenics.
>I’m done with you.
thank God
>some future generation has to
not necessarily
Why not?
technological advanced are unpredictable. we could develop something that brings about effectively the end of scarcity.
>You think we can’t stop now without dire consequences
I didn't say that
That seems to be what you are saying.
literally putting words in my mouth. what I'm saying is that malthusianism is next to eugenics.
>Just following your logic.
wrong
Feel free to explain. You say population decline (something which has yet to start) is a major problem that needs reversed, correct? So we need to grow faster? But you admit we can’t grow forever. So when should we stop growing?
>you admit we can’t grow forever.
I never said that.
So which is it. You said the same thing when I asked if we can keep growing forever.
I suspended judgement on both those claims
don't be petulant
>You say population decline (something which has yet to start) is a major problem
I didn't say that at all.