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[-] L3mmyW1nks@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If all previous experiences are negative and the actual definition seems outlandish, that's a valid opinion. It's not your fault if you never learned of non-negative examples.
The only question is how to apply this bias. The harm in assuming libertarians as Republican doesn't seem critical to me. I haven't made any other experiences so maybe I'm just as biased.
But maybe you're simply the only one living your non-right interpretation/definition of libertarianism. I'd have to hear your point of views to actually believe it.

*I've read some things about 'true' libertarianism in the past but couldn't find any community living it. It's like all those guys on hexbear preaching to be the most loving people while spewing hate and fascist opinions wherever they can.
Most of the Republicans seem to be so far right that those few moderate-right Republicans would have to distance themselves clearly to actually represent their position. If you distance yourself from all those "LINOS" (do I have to give Trump credit for this?) that others and me see everywhere, then you might be rather alone, I'd wager.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

If all previous experiences are negative and the actual definition seems outlandish, that's a valid opinion. It's not your fault if you never learned of non-negative examples.

Starting this with a /s just be clear this is a parody of your position:

"All my previous experiences with trans people have been negative, and the idea of a person with a penis being a woman seems outlandish."

Is that still a valid opinion?

[-] L3mmyW1nks@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'd say it's a valid opinion, though based on ignorance. When you grow up indoctrinated by your environment you'd have a hard time losing your bias on your own.
If you'd only have met mean people of a certain 'group' in your life it's understandable to form a negative opinion based on that. Even if you know that this might just be bad luck on your part it's still your experience.

It comes down to one's willingness to remain open minded and actually learn differently. One shouldn't condemn others based on that but it's understandable to be biased and 'careful'.
I have a bias regarding many classic right wing opinions and a hard time to not assume that a person with a strong opinion on a certain topic also ticks off all other related opinions. While I think my bias to think of any Republican or Libertarian being right-wing is valid, based on my experience, it's still a bias and won't hold true to every individual I 'classify' this way.

[-] Forester@yiffit.net 1 points 10 months ago

There is no such thing as true. Libertarianism. Just many diverging branches of opinion. With common concepts. I hate to have to use a religion example but kind of like how there is no one true Christianity. Just a bunch of Christian sects. It's kind of like how every shade of gray from black to white is not a color. Just shades and variations. If you would have any questions for me I would be happy to answer them from my perspective as a minarchist.

[-] L3mmyW1nks@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Thank you for the offer. I don't have questions for you. Just wanted to point out that I think it's understandable that people, including me, tend to be hesitant to believe that a Libertarian or Centrist doesn't turn out to be far right on the political spectrum.
But for me, the political US as a whole seems to be skewed right. Both parties are right-wing to my European eyes so even a 'true' centrist, in between those two, ends up far right.

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