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[-] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

do you even know better than this article you are posting under?

I don't know whether I know more or less than Björn Ólafsson, but I know he wrote that article with an anti-meat agenda. You can see it as early as his complaints that "93 percent of climate coverage did not mention the meat-climate connection". Of course they don't. It's one of the smallest and most contentious line-items in the climate change battle, and is one that never needs to be discussed in a successful resolution to the climate crisis. As such, if he were honestly analyzing the question as something other than a vegan advocate, he would more critically analyze the resources and effort being spent on the least efficient environmental improvements. Whether he is ignorant of that or simply biased, I neither know nor care.

Sounds like you are a really smart guy.

I wouldn't go that far. I grew up in and around farming communities in a high-education state, with two of the biggest agricultural universities in the country near me. I'm not a specialist in those and will admit it. I got into software engineering (shocker, since I'm on lemmy). But I have multiple family members who got advanced degrees through their programs, and multiple friends who have environmental engineering or environmental protection degrees. Does that make me "a really smart guy"? Not really. But I know how to critically analyze this particular topic more than most vegans I've met because firsthand knowledge and actually discussing environmental essays with the experts who wrote them tends to be more reliable than really really loving animals or watching Dominion or Poisoned.

created an easy life for yourself. you can virtue signal about being a decent person while also shoving meat into your grief hole.

You nailed it. By becoming educated, I actually can do something that's harmless for the environment without feeling bad about it.

You know, when I was younger, people had the same attitude about masturbation. Are you on some other sub (sorry, from the tone of this discussion I thought I was on reddit) attacking people for masturbating while virtue signaling? Or do you just hate educated people who happen to eat meat?

[-] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

cool wall of text bro. facts are facts. cool that you have these smart friends who apparently tell you that your lifestyle is cool.

That's handy.

[-] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

cool wall of text bro

Google Translate: I'm going to pretend that you said nothing real because I just realized I have nothing.

facts are facts

Hasn't Ben Shapiro trademarked that line? Oh no, it was "Facts don't care about your feelings". Same thing. Do you think blindly disrespecting the facts on the other side because they don't fit your narrative will get you anywhere?

Well, I mean, it will. It's a great way to get stupid people to follow you. Ben Shapiro taught us that . But is that what you're really looking for?

... That's handy, I guess.

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