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[-] Timwi@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

I think the course of action is clear. Ban it from tournaments/official events. Since I'm not in the LoL scene I don't know if that might already be the case. Now, regular players will know that playing with this enhanced hardware will disqualify them from tournament play anyway. So now you simply create two modes of gameplay: tournament-legal, and casual. People who aren't aspiring to play in a tournament will play the casual game and it'll be acceptable there to use enhanced hardware. People who wish to play with people using tournament-legal hardware will play in the tournament-legal mode. There is little to no incentive to cheat in the tournament-legal game because you won't be able to cheat your way into an actual tournament that way.

[-] Lightborne@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

So people who want to just play a game casually will get their asses handed to them by people who are artificially enhanced. Cool.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

I mean, they get their arses handed to them by people better than them anyway. I understand the ranking system is something of a dark magic fudge, but it should roughly put you with/against people who have a similar chance of winning as you, right? If people play with cheats, they get to pretend they're better than they are (ooh, look at me up here in silver, ooh), but then they fit in with others who, with or without cheats, match a similar level.

[-] Goun@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

The ultimate pay to win.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

AFAIK competitive gaming events always happen on hardware that is provided by the organizers so everyone has the same. In some games players are allowed to bring their own mouse and/or keyboard/controller but imo that's already a pretty big "vector of attack" for hacks

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

You can't just give everyone the same mouse and kb if you want it to actually be fair tbh, different people have different kbs and mice for preference and ergonomic reasons. Different switches, maybe tolerable. Different kb size, very awkward and will lead to misclicks. Different mouse size? Even different sensor position? You will lose some precision until you're used to it.

Though organizers could provide a specified model, and ban peripherials with features that are deemed unfair.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah that's why most games' competitive events allow players to bring their own, but given the fuckton of dependencies some of the "gamer" peripherals install I'm kinda surprised I haven't seen anyone exploiting a vulnerability to use some cheats yet.

For example I have a gaming mouse with onboard memory, and I don't really trust Razer to secure that shit correctly (given the fact that their driver updating software doesn't even bother not downloading the previous versions when not necessary nor cleaning up downloads after installation. Fun fact : I recently discovered I had 10+ GB of download cache after barely a year of usage, for a mouse)

[-] AAA@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Except cheaters would flock to the tournament-legal game mode because there's less cheaters. Why would they bother to try and win against other cheaters if there's a better chance to win against easier opponents?

Cheaters cheat so they win easier. They don't care about fairness.

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