submitted 9 months ago by ilikenoodlez@lemmy.ml to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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There's so many providers and sketchy ppl you can pay for access to IPTV and there's even plenty of free playlists that provide tons of content. Who's actually providing these services and how does it work that theres so many middlemen/resellers?

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[-] Album@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's a chain of providers.

Generally speaking, you have your wholesaler who sells to individuals or to other iptv resellers (eg. bulk discount of monthly subs).

A wholesaler will generally pay monthly to other source stream providers from a variety of sources to create a full catalogue of channels to provide to individuals and resellers. The wholesaler usually does the EPG management also - basically sources EPG from a variety of data sources.

So UK channels might come from one source, Canadian channels from other, some channels are on this cable provider, others on another - could be different sources. These sources are people who buy cable/satelite set top boxes and subscriptions to then stream them to the wholesalers.

A source might sell to 100+ wholesalers, and then those wholesalers will have 1000+ of subscribers each.

Generally, don't subscribe with a re-seller...it's your best chance that you'll have to find a new subscription. You'll get the best support at wholesale and they hang around longer, although being bigger makes them targets for raids or even to close up shop and take all future subscription money.

[-] Redditgee@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Isn't the whole problem that, since nobody openly talks about providers, nobody knows who the originals are? Of course, everyone can claim to be the guy at the top, but who knows?

[-] Album@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

The only people who need to know who the originating sources are are the wholesalers, and I'm pretty sure at that level they have a good sense of who is originating or not. Or maybe they also don't care as long as it works and the price is right.

At the individual level, you have to assume that your provider is not the originating source - that's just how it works. Discovering whether or not you are using a reseller or a wholesaler though? It should be fairly easy to tell from the services and support they offer.

[-] ilikenoodlez@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Thanks this makes sense. Sounds sketchy as fuck so I'll just be sticking with torrents lol.

[-] Album@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

It's one of those things where paying in advance is not a good idea because of how sketch it can be. And you should not use identifiable information when creating an account or paying. E.g. a good provider only accepts crypto.

The only wholesaler I'm currently aware of has been operating for 5+ years the length I've been aware of their existence. So there's definitely trustworthy providers out there. I have no idea how to research good providers since IPTV talk gets shut down every where.

[-] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

Most crypto transactions are trivially identifiable these days. Most blockchain are an unencrypted public leger and most crypto retailers like coinbase require government ID.