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You're attacking people who are on your side, and this upcoming election is too important for this type of behavior, don't you think?
Also, an argument based on appeal to tradition is no argument at all. Slavery used to be the norm, openly opposing equity for women and LGBT+ people has been the norm.
These are no longer acceptable in 2023, nor should they be; nor is supporting the genocidal state of Israel. If people have just woken up to that, then good for them -- this progress should be praised and encouraged.
These are not "morons" or "children" or ... whatever else you called them/us. (I'm so disgusted with your incivility and abuse of power, as well as your discarding the opinions of large swaths of empathetic voters, that quite frankly I can't be assed to re-read that comment.)
Sorry, I don't play civility politics with "BOTH SIDES" types who spend all their time talking about how voting is worthless but they're totally going to vote for Biden, if only everyone else is nice to them and doesn't object to them passing around intellectually bankrupt talking points.
You either don't understand the argument or don't understand what an appeal to tradition is. The argument is not "This is old, therefore, it is good", the argument is "This is not new; Biden is not the architect of this policy, this is not a split-second decision that we can just reverse, this is a longstanding policy of the US that would take wide consensus to change"
"These are no longer acceptable", only public opinion polls in the US and abroad show that's absolutely not true. And if you've just 'woken up' to this, then it's pretty fucking important that you understand that other people are still asleep, and, like you, will take time to wake up, rather than passing around "GENOCIDE JOE" cliches.
"Abuse of power is when someone says something, and the more I disagree with it, the more abuse it is"?
More like when you engage in unhinged personal attacks and rules violations to the point that a more effective mod has to treat you like a delicate young child and remove your comments.
Two of us have said we plan to vote for genocide-supporting concentration-camp building Joe, but that's not good enough for you, is it? If we criticize him for his fascist-aligning genocide-supporting words and deeds, Big Bad Mod Daddy will piss his pants in the thread.
I have utterly no respect for you. Blocked.
Lmao, why are you so obsessed with the fact that I'm a mod for other magazines?
And how'd it work out for the Pres. that ended Slavery again, I forget?
Don't see how this is relevant
Shocking.
Were Biden stupid enough to follow your advice to not worry about "the norm" as you put it, the same results. The only way to get actual change without disastrous consequences is to build popular, ie not a tiny minority of a very very few, support. Cutting ties with Israel both removes all our influence and assures a much larger blow back by the far larger number of folks that would view it as a betrayal. Voting third party is a waste of time until there is ranked choice or some similar. Not Voting to teach the Dems a lesson gets us another round of every more disastrous results. In 2016 this exact same idiocy resulted in the loss of Women's Bodily Autonomy.
But the naive morally superior fools, provided they are not just shrubbery like the source of most of the talking points, in this thread would simply remove more protections for more minority groups.
Well, I mean you remember him as the president that ended slavery, if that wasn’t the most impressive thing about him then you probably have said said president who got shot in the theater by that actor