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[-] Space_Racer@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

It has some trade-offs, the same rules allow the DEA and ATF to make rules but also allows things like the EPA to function. It really is a double edged sword.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Your comparison is EPA, an agency of environmental subject matter experts, so for drugs, which is a health issue, it should be a health agency. DEA is law enforcement. It’s letting cops decide policy when it should be an agency of subject matter experts writing evidenced-based policy.

[-] Space_Racer@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I'm just saying it's the same rules that give them the power to decide on enforcement. Also all of them are enforcement agencies. The EPA does have federal agents that have the power to arrest. The EPA decided to have less cops in their agency because it is not the nature of their agency. The DEA and ATF decided to have more cops in their agencies because it is the nature of their agency.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sounds like a problem with their specific implementations rather than the rules that allow them to exist. I wonder if competent legislation could fix that.

[-] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago

Yeah the main trade off is federal organizations have become so determinate that pretty soon, and it's come close already, they're just gonna support a dictator enable their internal politics.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This just isn't true. Federal agencies are made up of regular people who work a regular job for mediocre pay, and a dictator is much more likely to do away with that job (or even worse, as we've seen historically. Purges aren't just a fun way of saying "vacation").

Republicans have even said in the recent past (Rick Perry comes to mind, but pretty sure Trump has said similar) that they will do away with major regulatory agencies if they're elected (such as FDA, EPA, DOE, etc). What do you think happens to all of those workers when a Republican decides to shut down their agency? They're out of a job.

So no, they don't support it. They just don't really have any say in it either way.

[-] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

You've never talked to a cop.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't give a fuck about cops.

The federal government is the largest employer in the US. What % of those do you think are cops?

[-] DrPop@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Cops make up s very small percentage of government employees.

[-] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Doesn't matter, that was just an example. People get "institutionalized" in both government and corporate positions, the difference is the corporate ones have little power over the general public, next thing you know you have government representatives running around trying to make peoples lives hell for making clotted cream. If that sounds like a weird example, it is, definitely.

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