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[-] parpol@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

China doesn't count because you can't trust whatever they report to be true.

An example would be their "China made" microchips for the new Huawei or their new laptops, that were supposed to be proof that China didn't need western chips, but then the chips say "Taiwan" for some reason, and you realize they were still using western or older chips, but lying about them being manufactured in China.

When it comes to trains, we've all seen the horribly photoshopped gifs of the trains running on their empty rails.

[-] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago

When it comes to trains, we've all seen the horribly photoshopped gifs of the trains running on their empty rails.

Are you suggesting that China built a massive railroad network, but is lying about having trains?

Real "Lets fake the moon landing on the moon" hours.

[-] parpol@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Does this look real to you? Posted by a Chinese official.

https://youtu.be/G9VZf4ISG-o

[-] showmustgo@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

Some of us have ridden China's HSR lmao

[-] parpol@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

I take it you've ridden the maglev too, then.

Jokes aside, I'm sure the high speed rail actually exists, but I'm taking a stab at the legitimacy of the statements from any Chinese source, since they're well known to spout lies.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago
[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

I'm Chinese, and I am making a statement: parpol has not had sexual relations with minors.

Call me out for lying please.

[-] parpol@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

I assume having sexual relations when I was a minor, with someone my own age counts, so that means your statement is technically false.

But to clarify a little. I have issues trusting the CCP and Chinese media, not Chinese people.

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Honest question, do you not find yourself being chauvinistic when you dismiss all Chinese media as lies until proven true, but accept all western media as truth until proven lies?

How about when China insisted the Ballon that was blown into US airspace was not for espionage, the western media on all fronts called it a spy balloon, then months later quietly admitted it wasn't spying?

Does that not increase the credibility of China/decrease the credibility of the west in your eyes, even a little?

What about the years of articles about social credit being some Orwellian nightmare, when China insisted it wasn't, and only after it was implemented did the west quietly admit that it was localised tracking for businesses to account for fraud and wage theft?

Conversely, the west did lie about WMDs in Iraq, swaying public opinion so as to launch an illegal invasion that resulted in a million Iraqi casualties, or the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and that doesn't damage credibility? How do you resolve the cognitive dissonance in your head?

[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 10 months ago

*since they’re well known to spout lies according to western official, CIA sponsored thinktanks and western media.

What about the lies whestern media and western officials are well known to spout? Western media are infamous for lying about countries the US sees as rivals or ennemies, do these lies not make the narative about China at least a little bit suspicious to you?

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