294
submitted 8 months ago by Mrkawfee@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Good thing Genocide Joe is trying to remove the blockade of goods... On the red Sea so israel can receive more weapons.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 8 months ago

"Genocide Joe" said the right wing astroturfer. Yes, we know he supports Israel. Every single POTUS since 1948 has supported Israel. Can we move on please? Trump is not your friend.

[-] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

The person didn't even mention Trump. You act like criticizing Joe Biden for supporting an actual genocide makes you a troll. What lind of brain dead argument is that. Joe Biden shouldn't be immune to criticism if he does something terrible.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

The weird part for me is that it's not like Israel NEEDS more weapons. They had all they needed before 10/7.

The only reason we're supporting them is because Joe can't lose the campaign donations. That's really what it boils down to.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It was a lot of tank shells and mortar rounds. The tank shells make sense if you hear how they use their tanks in Gaza. They just fire at every building and suspicious rock they see.

Tank shells are a lot cheaper and faster destruction wise than plane bombings. Same for mortars, dumb cheap weapons useful for just destroying buildings.

And likely some stockpiling because Netanyahu has been trying to start a war with Lebanon for a while now and if he manages to escalate it that far then israel will need a hell of a lot more than just their current reserves.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Pretty sure Bibi's been pissed about Lebanon ever since their last illegal occupation was kicked out, that doesn't surprise me at all.

The fact that Trump wants to do the same thing to Mexico should horrify everyone.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Can't have any contingency plans with that guy around. He sees them as opportunities, not something to be kept in reserve.

[-] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks 2 points 8 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

if you hear how they use their tanks in Gaza.

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes? They've been pushing for "pauses" (can't call it a cease fire, too unpopular I guess) in fighting and to get through Israel's blockade to get more humanitarian relief to Gaza for months now. You could argue not forcefully enough (I would, though who knows what goes on privately in diplomatic negotiations), but blaming Biden for the blockade is just misinformation.

https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/nov-24-2023-humanitarian-pause-gaza

Prior to any of this Biden restored funding for Palestinians that had been cut by Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/08/joe-biden-restores-us-aid-palestinians-donald-trump

The United States has contributed at least an additional $121 million in funding and humanitarian supplies since October. Probably much more in actuality since many of the UN relief agencies with boots on the ground are heavily funded by the US.

https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/dec-05-2023-united-states-announces-additional-humanitarian-assistance-palestinian-people

Attack the US all you want on continuing to allow weapon sales to Israelis and other misdeeds, but you don't need go over the top and start introducing misinformation as well. There's enough they do wrong to attack them on without making up new stuff as well.

And your US defending the red sea to get more weapons to Israel doesn't even make sense. Weapons from the US and Europe have a much more direct path than going all the way around the cape of good hope and then the horn of Africa. If you need a more real politik reason besides the obvious ones like the US doesn't like threats to the global economy, a more likely reason would be the houthis targeting all oil freighters except Russia's, oil that will become more valuable if other sources are shut down and help fund the war against Ukraine.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Your claims are completely false. America is doing absolutely nothing except give israel more weapons.

https://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip/20240108_israel_is_starving_gaza

For example, almost all goods enter through Rafah Crossing, a passenger crossing that is not equipped for massive commercial transports, limiting the number of truckloads getting through and creating a bottleneck.Although Israel recently allowed trucks in through Kerem Shalom Crossing, too, which is designed for commercial transports, this was merely a token addition that has failed to alleviate the hardship. Additionally, Israel forces aid organizations to purchase food from Egypt and prevents them from buying it in Israel, which would allow for a more efficient and rapid transfer of goods. Israel also prohibits the private sector in Gaza from purchasing food, which could significantly increase supply.

Aid organizations are struggling to operate under current conditions, and most of the limited aid allowed in remains in Rafah instead of reaching residents throughout the Strip. Martin Griffiths, the UN Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator, listed several reasons why aid cannot be efficiently distributed. Among other things, he noted that trucks are inspected several times before Israel allows them into Gaza, and even then, long lines form due to the conditions at Rafah Crossing. The little food that does get in is very difficult to distribute due to the constant bombings, destroyed roads, frequent communication blackouts, and shelters overflowing with of hundreds of thousands of IDPs crowding into smaller and smaller areas.

Israel can, if it so chooses, change this reality. The images of children begging for food, people waiting in long lines for paltry handouts and hungry residents charging at aid trucks are already inconceivable.

Biden doesn't even acknowledge Palestinians exist

[-] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks 2 points 8 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Biden doesn't even acknowledge Palestinians exist

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You didn't read my comment did you? Because nothing you posted disproves what was in my comment or argues against it in anyway. My comment was about the United States' actions and all you've posted about is what Israel is doing, which I'm not in disagreement with you on. I just disagree with your bizarre assertion that the Biden amdin is somehow responsible for Israel's blockades in aid, when in actuality they've been publically urging Israel to allow additional aid through for months. And prior to the war even beginning, the Biden admin restored Palestinian aid that had previously been stripped by Trump. And everything I wrote in my comment is clearly sourced and proveable regardless. But yeah not commenting again, since you couldn't be bothered to even read the comment, or did but jusy decided to talk past it. Plenty to criticize America or Biden over without making up lies too.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Your comment contains irrelevant quotes from the people that claimed that they saw evidence of 40 beheaded babies.

Here's what they did today:

US Senate rejects measure to force human rights report on Israel

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oh look it's an article about how the Biden admin imposed a blockade on Palestine! Wait, it's not, because that never happened, if anything it's quite the opposite, and you lied or misspoke and just won't own up to it. So you are changing the subject to something else, again. I'm done.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

I'm sorry am I hearing Nazi apologism?

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago
this post was submitted on 16 Jan 2024
294 points (96.2% liked)

World News

38578 readers
2975 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS