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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

The Supreme Court on Tuesday passed up a chance to intervene in the debate over bathrooms for transgender students, rejecting an appeal from an Indiana public school district.

Federal appeals courts are divided over whether school policies enforcing restrictions on which bathrooms transgender students can use violate federal law or the Constitution.

In the case the court rejected without comment, the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld an order granting transgender boys access to the boys’ bathroom. The appeal came from the Metropolitan School District of Martinsville, about 30 miles (48 kilometers) southwest of Indianapolis.

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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

Ultimately, what it boils down to is that they want to force trans people to de-transition, go back into the closet, and hopefully kill themselves. The pain and aggravation caused by these stupid bathroom laws is quite literally the point.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The cruelty is the point… They don’t want us to exist

It’s really fucking stressful being under a bathroom law. There aren’t correct choices. It’s supposed to be either committing a misdemeanor or getting the shit kicked out of you.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'm really sorry you're going through that. It sucks, and I can only hope that as the future inevitably progresses, things improve.

My son is trans (FtM). We're lucky to live in a sane state that doesn't have this bathroom bill garbage. But my heart goes out to those that do.

[-] fxdave@lemmy.ml -3 points 10 months ago

It's like killing yourself because in physics they teach v=s/t instead of v=ds/dt. Cruelty. Clearly, v=s/t doesn't work.

I really don't get it. If you have a penis you would like to use a urinal. If you don't you wouldn't.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Stand to pee devices exist and are pretty common. Some people have prosthetic set-ups. Some folks have even had bottom surgery and can stand. Not to hard to use a urinal, although I’ve never used a men’s bathroom that didn’t have a stall in it.

The cruelty is that I am a man. I have about two inches of beard and a mat of chest hair that peeks through a t-shirt. I’m not out at work, I’m not out at restaurants, I’m not out really in any setting that doesn’t require me being nekkid. Requiring me to use the women’s bathroom because I don’t have a penis would require me to cause a massive scene - am I supposed to drop my pants to prove I’m in the “correct” restroom? My drivers license says male on it, do I need to carry around my birth certificate to use the bathroom?

Your physics example is extremely poorly formed. I’ve taught physics for years and have no idea what you’re trying to convey.

[-] fxdave@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago

How is it possible that you have beard without men genitals?

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I’ve been taking testosterone injections for roughly ten years. They are prescribed to me, I inject myself in the thigh once a week. I experienced male puberty. My voice cracked and dropped. I slowly developed stubble that developed into a terrible patchy beard, and with time the ability to grow a fairly decent one.

It’s entirely possible to have a beard without injections or testicles - conditions like PCOS can cause fluctuations in hormone levels. Some women are just naturally hairy, human bodies are complicated 🤷‍♂️

[-] maness300@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago

That's a slippery slope.

Most of the women I see who have an opinion on this are afraid of men sharing their bathrooms. They have a legitimate fear of men that borders on and often crosses over into sexism.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Trans women aren't men, and every time I see someone insist that their anecdotal reports of women terrified that the bathroom stall next to them might contain a trans woman, they invariably fail to cough up any actual statistics on it. Maybe you'll be different.

In any event, this is someone born with a vagina:

Do you think that person should use the women's restroom?

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

So we should give cis women’s imaginations more rights than trans women’s real health and safety?

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