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In a capitalist world, it can be hard to remember this. But despite what you are pressured to think, your value as a person does not come through what material value you create for others.

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[-] inasaba@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

But people who cannot do those things are not "valuelesss." That is ableist and still informed by the Protestant Work Ethic. People can still have value even if they can't do labour.

People do work in non-capitalist situations for the betterment of the community. The value is not measured by metrics, but by how fulfilled people feel by it.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

They probably don't care, they just said the quiet part out loud - society, and many in it, simply see us (disabled people) as having no value whatsoever and as being nothing but a burden.

A perfect example of why fighting the class war without also fighting all the other oppression capitalism relies on (ableism, racism, sexism, and so on) will never gain equity and equality for all, but only for those already more privileged than others.

[-] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That's a bit of an uncharitable assessment considering they're just stating how things operate now.

We don't have post-scarcity yet (even if we could somewhat) and neither do we have survival lifestyle where strength-in-numbers means practically anyone will boost survival of the group as has happened in the past (see healed fractures in ancient bones). Plus land ownership/availability and resources are much different, money and process tangle everything now.

Particularly in USA, it also doesn't help that preventable/treatable health issues are such a big problem (also public transportation, zoning, wages/benefits, law, lack of socialization, and 100 other issues combining together), leaving people behind to suffer.

[-] whale_food@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Just FYI, I agree that materialist value is not the only value to look for in other people, but “The value is not measured by metrics” doesn’t make sense because metrics are by definition measured.

[-] inasaba@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm saying it isn't measured quantitatively.

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