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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Especially on a finite world with finite resources.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

Bold of you to assume the stock market has anything to do with finite resources.

When the ultra wealthy and their companies run the system into the ground they will buy up the failed stocks and cheap land that nobody else can afford then come out ahead when the economy recovers like they have in the previous economic crashes. They can afford to buy low and cash out when it is high because they have zero pressure to act at any given point in time due to their ridiculous wealth and zero legal repercussions.

[-] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 10 months ago

But even then there reaches a point where they run out of things to buy, and people to buy them from.

Eventually they poison the one thing they worship: the sanctity of private property rights. It has to serve at least some portion of the populace if it's going to remain tenable, but they're doomed to discover and undershoot that number.

The Western world spent a century demonising socialism with "they'll take your home and car" but it rings hollow when you have neither.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I cannot afford an emergency. Bring in the socialist, if it is houses they take, and cars they enamor, surely they will leave me be.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Bold of you to assume they were talking about the stock market

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Upthread:

This is a terminal stage market capitalism fire sale. The snake is eating its own tail having conquered the board.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

And? How do you get stock market from that? They are obviously talking about the economy as a whole and not the stock market

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

The stock market is the reason for chasing quarterly profits and a massive part of what gets counted as the economy. It is the main driver of all the shitty late stage capitalism practices we are discussing.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The stock market is certainly part of the problem but it’s not everything.

Capitalism in its entirety is the issue. Capitalism is based on infinite growth which is unsustainable and impossible.

The stock market is just a tool to extract wealth from the populace. Without the stock market it would still happen but with less efficiency.

You have the same problems with or without stocks.

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