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Alec Baldwin indicted for involuntary manslaughter in fatal gunfire on film set
(www.theguardian.com)
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Did you read the link?
It walks through how some Starline Bass casings were loaded with live ammo, and then ended up on a film set where there should not have been any live ammo at all.
As to the armorer, yes, she was incompetent. That's the whole point here. The hiring director (who was not Baldwin) took a chance on someone who had past safety issues on her only other film, because she was the daughter of a well respected armorer.
She didn't know how to check the bullets to see if they were dummy rounds (completely fake, but realistic looking) or live rounds.
I know the article says blanks, but from everything I've found online, there weren't even blanks on the set of Rust. Just dummy rounds, and a few live rounds that snuck in via a coffee can full of co-mingled rounds from a previous film.
That literally shouldn't be possible with dummy rounds. They should be a solid block inside so it's impossible to load with powder. If that's true then Starline deserves to be sued into oblivion.
I think you're mistaking blank rounds for dummy rounds. Also a quick look at their website shows they sell brass. Brass for reloading, for live, for blanks, or for creating your own dummies.
Again, there is no way to test a round to see if it's a dummy short of attempting to fire it. Normal ones are a completely different color or even transparent for this reason. Obviously that doesn't work in filming.
As to which producer is culpable, Baldwin absolutely could have fired her and was part of violating safety protocols by ignoring complaints he could have addressed directly and immediately.
All of that info is in the link.
Or in this link.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-11-30/rust-shooting-ammunition-search-warrant-pdq-alec-baldwin
Starline is not involved here. Every dummy round used in Hollywood has the Starline logo, but that's just because they make the brass that everyone uses to make dummy rounds.
No, the company that fucked up before the armorer fucked up was PDQ Arm & Prop, LLC. They sent out the co-mingled rounds.
A search warrant executed in 2021 found live rounds mixed into their supply of dummy rounds.