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In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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[-] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 10 months ago

Your oxygen subscription expires in 2 weeks. Please take note that absence of oxygen leads to hypoxia. Due to the detrimental effects of the war in Ukraine we have been forced to increase prices by 420%. Would you like to extend your subscription?

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

How is that related to unlocking your car from your phone?

[-] Evia@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Because the cost of the app to do that isn't $60 a year.

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de -1 points 10 months ago

No the cost of the Servers and the maintenance and the work required to have all that kept online and secure is.
Do you think admins and security guys work for free?

[-] Evia@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I'll refer you to unexpctedkeg's comment

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de -2 points 10 months ago

will refer to my already posted answer to that comment

[-] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

Both are, or at least should be, ridiculous.

Yes, an app costs money. Yes, servers do cost money. But do they need to use servers? No. For example, self-hosting. Or just connecting the car to the cellular network (which they already do, mind you) and just let the phone talk to it directly, no manufacturer server required. Just pay an ISP for cell service and you're set. Are there problems with such a solution security-wise? Yes. And while I'm not an expert in cybersecurity I think the risks are about the same for this and a server model.

Hell, they might not even use servers for anything other than checking if you've paid your subscription in order to lower costs already (as if a few thousand unlock requests a minute couldn't be managed without a problem on a Raspberry Pi). They don't need some huge, expensive and power-hungr supercomputer for that, so I don't see a need for such a steep price.

Are the features useful? Absolutely. Would someone be willing to pay this price? Also absolutely. But the festures objectively don't cost that much to maintain and competition should and could put an end to it.

It's just corporate greed, and it feels to me as if we're getting closer and closer to the fabled oxygen subscription, and we have to call manufacturers out on their bullshit while we still have air to breathe.

Just don't buy their cars or at least their subscriptions. Get your car 'jailbreaked'. What will they do, remote disable it? I think we're still not that far down the dystopia plotline that a boycott couldn't work.

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de -2 points 10 months ago

You want to selfhost your own server that communicates with your car so you can ulock your car from your phone? Are you dumb? Do you want to lose your car in a week?
Delusional.

[-] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, i don't want to self-host.

In fact, I don't want my phone to have anything to do with my car.

Just give me an AUX jack and basic bluetooth for making a call.

As I said already, the security vulnerabilities of hosting are exactly the same, whether it's self-hosting or any other hosting.

I also don't want my car to collect and sell my data, or be connected to the cloud in any way, shape or form, heated seat subscriptions and firmware updates included.

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Then *** don't buy the subscription ***
It is very easy. the design is very human.

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