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I'd be interested in hearing a compelling reason why anyone should have their voting rights revoked for any reason what so ever.
If you're a citizen of a country, you should always get a say, no matter what you've done.
Doing otherwise just opens the doors for something like making weed illegal so you can throw hippies in prison on felony charges.
I don't agree with this stance, but I believe the idea is that people who vote should be those who have a vested interest in the preservation of social order and the governments that ensure it.
Prisoners are kept imprisoned by the government, which means on the whole you'd expect their priorities to trend towards the dissolution of governmental social order.
You've also got voter jurisdiction conflicts. Should prisoners have a say in local elections where the prison is housed or should it be their last known residence before they were incarcerated? If the prison population is significant compared to the population of a remote town where the prison may be housed, do we say they don't get a say in local elections after all?
I'd say before any of these problems can be easily answered, it requires a huge overhaul of the justice system and the way we handle imprisonment as a whole.
Prisoners, who are entirely at the mercy of the state, have more vested interest than anyone else in ensuring that their needs are heard.
Voting for the government to dissolve will never be on the ballot, and even if it was, I'd argue that if a government is keeping enough prisoners that they could vote to dissolve it, that government is the most extreme police state in history and it definitely needs to be dissolved.
I would argue committing voter fraud or election fraud is grounds for stripping away one’s voting rights. The person has proven they do not value other people’s voting rights by trying to subvert otherwise fair elections and should therefore forfeit their own voting rights. That’s really the only reason voting rights should ever be stripped though.
There won't ever be enough people convicted of election-related fraud to matter, so all you'd be doing by taking away their right to vote is to reinforce the idea that the right to vote can be taken away.
Just because the number of offenders is negligible doesn’t mean they should continue to exercise that right after they’ve abused that same right to the detriment of others.