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Finally, some good news.
Out of a lot of jackasses in the world, Jon Stewart continues to be clear-headed unmitigated good.
Yes, that means I have forgiven him for using trans people as the butt of his jokes for a long time, and I'm hoping he's had enough growth to understand why those were bad. Also, to be fair, it's been quite a while since he has done a joke like that. And if he turns on a dime and makes some uncouth remarks about trans folks, he'll be in shit-city with me, and I'll take back the good things I said about him. Pretty sure he won't tho.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jon-stewart-atones-for-his-own-shitty-anti-trans-jokes
He is self aware and takes responsibility, which I think is the best thing we can expect from just about anyone.
I did link that at the end, after a quick Google. I don't have AppleTV and never saw The Problem with Jon Stewart, so I was unaware of this, but the fact that he defended Chappelle at first was a bad look and to my knowledge he hasn't amended his statement on Chappelle's defense.
Stewart didn't defend Chapelle, Stewart opposed censorship and penalties with one reason being Stewart being called antisemitic for criticizing how Israel treats Palestinians. Note this is from 2022 and I'm pretty sure Stewart still thinks Israel's actions are terrible.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/11/jon-stewart-defends-dave-chappelle-controversial-snl-monologue
And anyone coming from Reddit (or here) should understand.
How many comments aren't posted just to avoid the backlash and downvotes?
I'm talking about something that preceded that and is about Stewart defending Chappelle's anti-trans jokes and positions.
I'm not linking directly to a shitrag like the New York Post, but I couldn't find another article on it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211022145129/https://nypost.com/2021/10/22/jon-stewart-defends-decent-dave-chappelle-amid-scandal/
Stewart specifically defended Chappelle after Chappelle referred to himself as a TERF on his standup special.
Thanks! I had not seen that one yet.
Yeah it would mean a lot to me if Jon Stewart could just say "Okay, yeah, Chappelle is officially being hurtful on purpose."
Because he fucking is. Guy basically thinks trans people should have to suffer the indignities black people did to get respect... because he doesn't realize they fucking did already. But beyond whether they did or not already, does Chappelle really want to fucking play Oppression Olympics? Fuck me man, I thought we all deserved respect because of human rights, not because we were supposed to suffer under abuse first. That's some real Boomer shit, "It was bad for me, so I better see it being bad for you before I respect you."
Chapelle has completely shit the bed over thr last decade by switching from someone who had clever takes on racial issues with some shitty takes on other subjects to leaning entirely into spewing hate while crying about nonexistent cancel culture.
Yes, Chapelle wants to play oppression Olympics while excusing his hot takes because he had 'one trans friend'. I forced myself to watch most of his Closer special to see if it was as bad as people claimed and it was, so from here on out I will just assume the worst things said about him are probably true.
Isn't it amazing that the people that cry about this the most fill stadiums for their shows? Must be fucking terrible to be "cancelled" and rolling in fucking money.
The only people that have actually been canceled by 'cancel culture' are sex offenders like Bill Cosby and Kevin Spacey. Before that people like Harvey Weinstein was canceling women for not giving him blowjobs.
Yeah, anyone who tries to milk the myth of cancel culture for publicity is a piece of shit.
I would just like to add that I think the right more aggressively pursues the parody of "cancel culture" that they claim exists on the left. They canceled the Dixie Chicks who were nearing the height of their career and said something bad about Bush and the war in Iraq and were put out to pasture. Same thing with Sinead O'Connor and her ripping up a picture of the pope...there are dozens of examples...dozens! arrested_development_dozens.gif
It's the same thing they do with a lot of things. For instance they'll claim the left is using "identity politics" while running on "keep black people out of the suburbs" and "keep gay people out of wedlock" as a platform.
I personally believe the idea is to associate effective tools and mechanisms with "overreach by the left" so people on the left stop using them and they can continue to be used and abused purely for right-wing causes without critique.
I mean look at how they'll constantly associate "virtue signaling" with the left while they're sending around Christmas cards with the whole family smiling and holding rifles.
You can boil it down to "they don't LIVE in good faith."
Everything is performative and a means to and end. They don't have values other than power over others.
Oh but it’s so easy to just say “cancel culture!” in response to anything I don’t like! Damn libs taking everything good away.
I'm less concerned about trans jokes specifically, but I worry that Jon Stewart of now won't be able to live up to our memories of him during the W years. Will be be sufficiently progressive for modern left viewers, or is he going to be a Bill Maher "center left" type? Will he be is sharp and cutting as he was, and be able to translate that to a world that is so more polarized and down the rabbit hole with conspiracy theories and all that junk?
Basically I'm afraid this is Michael Jordan coming out of retirement to play for the Washington Wizards.
Maybe my concerns are not well placed, I didn't catch his newer show because I don't feel like subscribing to Apple TV, so I don't know where he's at nowadays. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I'm fully prepared to be let down.