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Wtf are you talking about? This guy was trying to get his mother and brother out and evacuated and then was shot holding a white flag. Please point out the Hamas in the video using anyone as a human shield.
It's this thinking that causes this Nazi shit to happen.
Nah the Nazi shit was a massive and organized campaign of extermination. It was planned and intentional.
It's a stupid comparison. This is one bad shooting in a war zone. Along with a few others, doesn't make it anything like the Nazis.
Hamas's human shield strategy, however, is an organized campaign of extermination, planned and intentional.
I'm also not talking about the guy in the video. Seems like he was murdered, and by a soldier, which makes it a war crime. One war crime, or a dozen war crimes, or a hundred, does not change the cassus belli or the lawful nature of the larger war itself.
No different than 1 or 12 or 100 guys selling drugs on a street corner would make anyone standing on the street corner a drug dealer; it doesn't.
It does when the person who owns the street corner says that this street corner is for drug dealers. Israel has said out loud they want everything in Palestine, that the Palestinians are a problem and it would be easier if they reduced them from millions to a couple thousand, that they're animals, etc. It's all genocidal language. You don't have to guess.
Not to mention Israel is using that same exact logic to ethnically cleanse Gaza, by pretending that every Palestinian is Hamas (despite greater than 50% deaths being women and children).
And it's not one bad shooting, or even a couple hundred war crimes. It's countless, or maybe one huge war crime. They're targeting all civilian infrastructure and have been since it's started, and justify it by saying Hamas is using all of it. Plus there's what's been happening in the West Bank forever. Millions of Gazans have been displaced already with no food or water and only the clothed and supplies they can carry. Journalists are getting shot every day.
Hamas is not doing some organized campaign of extermination. You just have to look at the numbers to see that. Hamas is a religious terrorist group that's arisen as a symptom of the need for armed resistance because Palestine has been getting screwed and lost all their nearby allies who could help after the Oslo Accords, and strengthened by Israel because they needed an enemy scapegoat to justify taking everything and denying a Palestinian state. They're a ragtag group shooting unguided improvised rockets over that fall on their own houses some of the time and fizzle and do nothing most of the rest of the time. If you want to look at organized extermination, look at the block by block bombing and displacement done by the IDF. Look at the side with the military vs the side with civilians trying to smuggle guns and hide in tunnels.
It's the same as the Native American raids, slave revolts, or the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. Hundreds of people are dying every week. There's no food, water, or power. Israel is an apartheid regime. They bomb hospitals, refugee camps, and humanitarian corridors "for ecsape".
Never again, means never again. Not just never again for white people.
If there is a tunnel under the building, they aren't targeting the building, they are targeting the tunnel. The building has to be razed either way. If the occupants and neighbors are all warned to leave, that's good enough by any standard of moral warfare.
It's a shame that Hamas built them under their people's homes and under vital infrastructure. It stuns me that rather than being violently overthrown by an angry mob of their countrymen, Hamas is extremely popular. I guess if all the suicide bombings and rocket attacks on innocent people didn't turn the Palestinian public against Hamas, why would October 7 be any different? Personally if some group asked me to ignore an evacuation order and allow myself to be blown up in order to die as a hero, I'd tell them they were absolutely insane and I would leave. Of course Hamas, insane terrorists that they are, would likely not allow me to leave, because to them there is actually nothing better than seeing Palestinians die by Israeli weapons.
No it's because the people who live there know what happens when they leave: they won't be able to come back. Palestinians are still trying to get the right return for the 700,000 that were kicked out of their homes during the nakba.The people there have living memory of these horrible events. Same thing happened with the Native Americans and the Trail of Tears. It's one of the stages of ethnic cleansing. Now over a million Palestinians are displaced without food or water or shelter and they're sick been a sick and an Egypt not letting them in.
And for some reason you blame Hamas rather than the people doing the actual bombing, which boggles the mind. Why don't you blame the people blockading the Palestinians for decades? The one restricting their calories, disturbing their sleep with drones, taking their homes in the West Bank, arresting them without trial or charge, cutting off their electricity or trash, preventing them from accessing water or oil, restricting the roads they can drive out cost systems they can use, telling them to go one way then bombing those same escape routes? How is all that not the fault of the Israel, the ones actually doing those actions? The ones motivating the armed struggle through continual oppression, apartheid, and war crimes?