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Nikki Haley PAC Out Raises Donald Trump by Millions: Report
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I think there are a great many Republicans who won't vote for a woman for president. Haley would be great for Dems, IMO.
She's worse than Hillary.
She's GOP so that's a given. If she becomes the R presidential candidate they just gave the race to Biden though, IMO.
No, I don't think so. She's a good debater, there's a reason why Trump was afraid to go on a debate stage with her. She would emasculate him on the debate stage.
And I have a generally high opinion on Biden, but he has visibly aged since the last election in 2020. I'm confident he could put forward his views well in a hypothetical debate with Haley, but his age would be out on full display, much more so than if he were debating someone his age. The story from those debates wouldn't be about what they said, but about the age difference.
I also think Biden only cares about beating Trump. If we find out that Haley is getting the nomination, then Biden will conveniently find out about some health issue that makes him unable to go on, and Harris would take over the ticket. (Too late to have a primary cycle, oh darn!) A Harris/Whitmer ticket stands a much better chance of beating Haley than Biden/Harris.
I admit you might have a point there. That's a good rebuttal to my thinking.
I highly doubt Biden would ever stop running for president, especially now that it's basically too late. Throwing kamela would be bad because it's such a huge curve ball, especially considering the good odds incumbents have at winning reelection.
Biden has a good chance against Haley mainly because she's not Trump and I bet he would split the Republican vote. If Trump were dead, I don't think Haley would appeal well to the hard trumpers, especially the sexist ones.
Honestly I'm surprised the whole "Leave the record player on at night so black kids hear more words!" didn't sink Biden
I think you underestimate the "team" aspect. I think even the folks who hate women hate losing more.
I think this is true of traditional Republican voters - their ability to fall in line and unify, both as a voter base and legislative block, has been a strength for decades (notably less so more recently). But I'm not so sure this applies to Trump's core voters. They seem much more of a "my way or the highway" crowd.
That said, I don't think the reason they wouldn't vote for Haley is because she's a woman, more just because she's not Trump, and is pretty openly hostile to him.
I don't see Trump admitting defeat, even in the primary. And if even a small percentage of Republicans in swing states insist on voting Trump instead of Haley it could very easily cost them the election.
Many many Republicans will not vote for anyone but Trump. Look at Mitt Romney. He didn't excite the crazies.
Totally agree, so all the better if Haley gets the nomination somehow.
Who knows. Fucking themselves is what GOP voters are best at so you could be right.
No joke, I don't think it was "The Pyramids were for storing grain so Dinosaurs wouldn't eat them!" thank sunk Dr. Ben Carson, I legitimately believe that many people who only read about the man abandoned him when the debates started solely because they realized he was black