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submitted 1 year ago by Riptide502@lemm.ee to c/meta@lemm.ee

I cam here to get away from all the corporate BS, but suddenly people want to welcome Facebook/Meta to the fediverse? I cannot fathom how people see their intentions as pure or innocent, especially since they aim to profit off of the open source software everyone has worked so hard on.

I just don’t see how the fediverse survives if it decides to let these massive companies make their instances. It feels like it’ll be a repeat of the rise of social media, where all the smaller forms got wiped out by large, consolidated social media platforms.

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[-] OctopusKurwa@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I for one would like to defederate from any and all corporations.

I love the idea that profit isn't a focus of the fediverse.

[-] darkmugglet@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

Hard disagree. I want to interact with the grandma's and family that aren't tech savvy. The Fediverse promise is one where the user has the power. I don't see how Meta will change that. All I see is that the Oklahoma asshole who wants to debate will get ads and I won't. Commerical sponsors of the Fediverse is validation of the idea, so let it happen. Yes, Meta will see my username and will try to make ads happen, but thats not what Meta needs or wants: they need high quality content and will accept that some of it they can't monetize. But if they can monetize those users in their corner, then they see value.

[-] yoichi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[-] darkmugglet@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Take an upvote, but I think the situation I'd very different from the XMPP and the office standards or even kerberos. In each of those cases, it was a standard.

For the XMPP case, XMPP use for Google was primary business users. The XMPP case ignores the rise of other, more convient, more engaged communication like Facebook Messenger, discord and free text messaging. For the open standard of OOXML, Microsoft's aim was to sell Office. And for Kerberos, the AD changed were driven by business reasons. Regular kerberos is insane to admin, and Microsoft made it easy; it doesnt help that Novell's eDitectiry failed.

With Federation, the story is different. The engagement isn't like XMPP of connecting to people you know, or the security reasons of AD or even the standards of OOXML. In a sense, Federation is more like DNS or a web server: it's just about connecting communities.

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