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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by catlover@sh.itjust.works to c/dota2@lemmy.ml

Here is my match history for the last few games:

  • 7552918956 l primal beast running alone and running into enemy alone, globally muted during game
  • 7552902567 l pos 5 pudge abandon
  • 7552860133 l mid necro rushes dagon ONLY, gets it at 9 mins with 4 deaths. result: 19-0 enchantress opponent on mid
  • 7552767327 l long game, pos 5 grim plays very poorly, worthless items, then abandons
  • 7550071221 w played as wd, lost of mistakes, played him like 5 times, team won
  • 7549980733 w played as lion, same as above
  • 7548787204 w 68 min game, pretty normal and close compared to that
  • 7548731357 l 7-16 (lvl7 @10 mins vs lvl10 lc) mid np tping behind towers and feeding, vs 536 stack duel victory lc
  • 7548485224 l pos 1 pl barely more nw than a support, dying uselessly a lot, lc afk deffensively farming triangle
  • 7548416320 l everyone fed meepo, offlaner didnt know how to play his hero
  • 7548356120 l cw pos 1, i wasn't good either but he felt insanely useless and died a lot
  • 7548301173 l pos 1 dude was straight out afk from the start

I had more or less (rather less) success before, but in the games I lost I there is always one lc mid rushing khanda, or someone who plays their hero for the first time (believe me, I can go on)

I get someone who griefs nearly every single game, and it makes impossible to have fun during games. Worst part is that I have to play the game till the end even if there is 0 chance of any play. What am I doing wrong? In the past there were multiple occurrences of having a really good winstreak, where my team won pretty hard, and I took a good part of it. Even if it was a loss, it was something to learn from, and I could blame myself for the mistakes I knew I made, and it was somewhat close. Then I got griefers for the next matches till I lost all of my advancements.

I seriously doubt that after having such a good winrates at 1.7k mmr I reach 2k, and the skill difference is that much that I have absolutely 0 chance to win, and suddenly everyone in my team plays insanely bad, or griefs. I get a ton of uncalibrated players who usually play awful in my team

I know that I'm possibly not better then everyone, but it always feels like I'm the only one in the team that knows how to play, and nearly always feel like that I was the best in my team. I know this sounds bad, but prove me otherwise, because at this point I have no idea what to do to stop this.

MatchID    Date                    Periodic  Excessive Reports  Excessive Abandons  Match Count  Positive Matches  Reported Matches  Abandoned Matches  Reports  Reporting Parties  Comms Reports  Comms Reporting Parties  Commends  Behavior Score
7548356120 2024-01-21 16:02:44 GMT Yes       No                 No                  15           14                1                 0                  2        2                  0              0                        20        11875 
7537612880 2024-01-14 16:34:57 GMT Yes       No                 No                  15           15                0                 0                  0        0                  0              0                        27        12000 
7531262752 2024-01-10 18:18:10 GMT Yes       No                 No                  15           15                0                 0                  0        0                  0              0                        24        12000

My all-time lowest behavior score was 11767 (since the increase to 12k), my comms score is the same

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[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Also, let me construct you a hypothetical scenario.

I'm an offlane Viper. I'm happy with my lane, I've killed the enemy carry 2 times already. I want to keep pushing my advantage, take the tower. My mid rotates to our safe lane, mid farm goes lost. My support leaves me to get the mid farm. I did not notice in time, and get ganked. I run, I just need someone to TP to my tower then I'll live and we turn it around. But no one does. I could have lived if only someone TP'd, where is my support? Mid lane instead of helping me, I ping his TP and say "wtf why you no help?!" I mean, of course pushing your advantage in this lane is more important than some mid creeps, right?!

He says he needs to get farm. Wtf, my support is supposed to support me. Clearly he's griefing me. He intentionally did not TP just to let me die. If he griefs me, I can not win this game. There's 0 chance of any play. My support is Pugna and his name is catlover.

Of course, you did the "right play". The farm may be more important. You probably didn't see the gank, and maybe you also even considered getting the farm to be more important than saving your Viper. You could definitely be right.

But your offlaner thinks you griefed him. And of course, when someone griefs you, you can also start giving up, because of course there's no chance with someone like that on your team.

Now I know this is incredibly hard: but can you tell me with absolute 100% confidence that everything you think about the game is 100% right? That you never misplay? That you never leave your offlaner when you shouldn't have left him?

Because if you are not 100% sure that everything you do is right, how can you expect this from your teammates? How often have you misconstructed the guy just trying to play to his best ability to be intentionally griefing you? How often, really, does someone just start griefing a game without any reason? Do you really think that people don't start out trying to win?

95% of players start griefing because they think someone else "griefed" them first. Only in 0,1% of times or so did anyone actually simply start griefing without any reason. Everyone thinks they're right.

this post was submitted on 25 Jan 2024
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