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“Kenny just began to gasp for air repeatedly and the execution took about 25 minutes total.”

Pretty compassionate way to kill a person.

Once again, the Law in the south is brutal.

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[-] snooggums@kbin.social -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hard to design a system that can be operated by a chimp when the people actually designing and implementing the process are clearly incompetent.

If they don't have a medical professional monitoring the person's oxygen levels to ensure he is dying as fast as it is supposed to work, how will they know if their made up bullshit about it being humane when forced upon someone is accurate?

Imagine if they were putting a free diver or other person who has practiced holding their breath for extended periods of time, how would they know if it was even working without monitoring them?

The states that execute people have lied about every prior method being 'humane' and non of them ever were in practice on someone who did not want to die. The electric chair supposedly killed the person instantly, but that was a lie. Lethal injection was supposed to be putting someone to sleep and described in the same way as nitrogen, but that was clearly a lie in practice because the people that do it are incompetent.

[-] halykthered@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Quoting an article about safe use of nitrogen, it is odorless, tasteless, and colorless. At extreme low levels of oxygen, nitrogen can cause unconsciousness and death in seconds and without warning.

I'm not talking about the chimps who executed this guy designing the system, I'm talking about qualified scientists designing it. The beauty is, you don't need a medical doctor to monitor oxygen levels if you rapidly remove the oxygen and add nitrogen. Send in slightly chilled nitrogen and the air will rise above it. Relief valve up top spits out the oxygen. Homeboy is unconsciousness before he realizes why the air just got cold.

The freediver will hold his breath confidently for four minutes, exhale, suck in pure nitrogen, and be out in a breath or two.

I agree that the state does lie and incompetently kills people, but we can design a system that does it well. I just don't agree they should ever use it.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social -4 points 9 months ago

, I’m talking about qualified scientists designing it.

Which qualified scientists designed this system?

[-] halykthered@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

No idea, I was discussing hypotheticals.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social -4 points 9 months ago

Why bother? People are being put to death in the real world where competent people are not involved in executions.

[-] halykthered@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Well you said you didn't want to pick an execution method because they all needed medical doctors, so I proposed a situation that doesn't require one except to declare death. But good point, we'll only pick up this discussion after you break in and rip the mask off the next execution victim.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social -4 points 9 months ago

No, your proposal would still need a doctor.

The only thing that wouldn't is a guillotine.

[-] halykthered@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

I disagree, you wouldn't need a medical doctor in my proposal except to declare death.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social -4 points 9 months ago

Your proposal is unicorns and rainbows fantasy land bullshit.

[-] halykthered@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

I disagree to this as well.

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