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Biden says he'll shut down the border if deal gives him authority
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hahaah wow, talk about moving the goal posts. no one is saying what youre implying. i understand theres more to immigration, but maintain some context.
this is discussion about immigrants at the US border.
Where do you think I initially placed the "goal posts", and where do you think I moved them to?
Hi, I'm "no one". I'm saying it. When do we tackle the underlying problem? When do we start doing something about why people are immigrating?
There is clearly a worsening humanitarian crisis occurring in Central America, evidenced by the increasing rate of refugees seeking to enter the US. When do we address it?
im not disagreeing with you other than the fact youre changing the conversation from 'what should america do with all these immigrants at the border" to "why are all these immigrants at our border"
2 completely different conversations. but, you do you
What do the immigrants need? To answer that, you first have to ask why they are here. When your conversation finally gets around to asking that question, you'll be having my conversation.
Catch up. Quickly, please: people are suffering while you're fucking around in the past.
no, i dont. my problem is with current immigration policy, regardless of why they are at the border.
You can't establish a reasonable policy on immigration without asking why people are emigrating. You need to ask why they are coming here long before you consider policy.
i get it , you suffer from some sort of roadblock you cant get past regarding origin. it must be hard being stuck in that place.
you do you, but i will be pushing for immigration reform at the border regardless of origin.
we should put this back to our pre-'24 order of allowing all immigrants unless they fail screening criteria, regardless of origin.
did i say regardless of origin enough? cuz it feels like i didnt point out how incredibly irrelevant that is when theyre standing at the gates.
Red herring. My question was not "where did they come from". My question was "why did they come".
If they are here because they want to be here, great, the more the merrier.
If they are here because they aren't safe where they actually want to be, we should be making them safe where they actually want to be.
If they are here because they are impoverished where they actually want to be, we should be improving the economies of where they actually want to be.
You can't spin this to where it is somehow better to deliberately ignore why they are coming. That question must be asked, and we must also justify any action or inaction we take in light of that answer.
why is irrelevant. america should be safe harbor for anyone, for any reason in any volume.
we are also not here to solve the *emigration problem of all other countries. thats just asinine.
why do you expect the united states to manage all other countries?? wtf
america is not and should not be the worlds police
When your neighbor is beating his wife and kids, you don't just invite them to stay with you. You do something about the abuser as well.
I reject your assertion that "why" is irrelevant. "why" is the single most important question that must be asked.
Human Rights aren't limited to those who manage to make it to our borders. For the same reason why we should be helping immigrants, we should also be helping those similarly situated. Those who want to leave, but are coerced into staying in abusive "relationships".
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