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Schools are run by sociopaths.
We're really just going to lay a blanket statement down like this? Every single one, everywhere, run by sociopaths? No room for nuance here at all?
Reminder that schools are often run by former teachers. You know, those severally underpaid and overworked people that do one of the hardest and most important jobs there is.
Remember what ACAB, landlord hating, anybody that's not communist or fixing every world problem with the snap of a finger platform you're on.
Not only that, but there's far fewer to literally no mod tools, bot detection, and vote manipulation detection either.
It makes things make a lot more sense when you realize half your politics and news threads are about as extreme as you can get short of being straight up 8chan.
Shipmate, why are you even here?
To show that there's sensible people here so others can get the fuck off reddit too.
Yes, sure why not? It's not like what we say here has any effect on the situation. I've been trying to fix my issues since I left. I'm allowed to be bitter.
From my experience, primarily gym and civics teachers. I've have so many little anecdotes about how my high school civics/history teachers pushed conservative ideology. Complaining about "welfare queens", complaining about unions(even saying teacher's unions were the only ones needed anymore). There's a selection bias for the types of people that become administrators and it's the same bias for why CEOs are mainly made up of sociopaths.
Got it, so you justify your ridiculous statement with even more ridiculous rhetoric, anecdote and not a shred of real evidence. Let’s say everything you said was true - you’re one person, how many schools could you have possibly experienced in ways that are meaningful to this conversation? You only mention one and that was as a student and that example is about fucking civics teachers not those who ran the school.
Honestly, the stuff that people say here to justify stupid statements is hilariously inept. Just take a moment and stop to read what you write and really think about how it reads - it’s childish lying and only likeminded fools agree with it.
All you have to do is look at the end results. Holistically, sociopathy is the norm and the school system is a corner stone in supporting that. It's just hard to see because of normalized it is.
As far as proving it, I'm not going to dox myself and if I did, it wouldn't be good enough for you. I've had enough experience with the education system at various levels and know enough of the good educators to know how it works.
Bad schools tend to burn teachers and administrators out. The only ones who don't are either hyper dedicated , or sociopathic. This concentrates them into problematic schools. The sociopathic ones also tend to get the most headlines, so we hear about them a lot more.
I like how Abbott Elementary actually shows this aspect, but it handles the problem too lightly, but the principal is basically the villain of the show.
My friend was a teacher for a bit. He ended up leaving for multiple reasons, but one stand out story was when he stuck up for a student that needed to carry an epipen, but the school wouldn't let them per their Zero Tolerance policy. The Gym Teacher turned Principle said he wasn't worried about getting sued if the child was hurt, as he's been sued before.
The superintendent at my high school admitted that I "Fell through the cracks", but refused to do anything about it when I confronted him about my difficulties getting out of the remedial classes. This will be a bit of a brag, but most people assume that I'm some engineering graduate instead of a drop out. This includes state university professors.
There's just too many bad administrators and teachers out there, just like in the private sector there's too much bad management, we need to trim the fat and figure out what works and what doesn't while also putting compassionate people in charge of students and people in general.