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[-] hitagi@ani.social 103 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Out of curiosity, other than fmhy.ml, lemmy.ml, and lemmygrad.ml, what other Lemmy instances were using .ml domains? Also, how are the latter two still running but fmhy.ml isn't?

edit: This has triggered a chain of comments I wasn't expecting. I'd appreciate it if someone can answer on a technical level. Is the latter two using a different registrar or name server which is why it still works for them?

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago

Why are so many instances using .ml anyway?

[-] Ginjutsu@lemmy.world 147 points 1 year ago

AFAIK, lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml use it because the ml can also stand for "Marxist-Leninist", and the two primary maintainers of Lemmy are Marxist-Leninists . Not sure about the others though.

[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 64 points 1 year ago

It can also definitely stand for Machine Learning which is the first thing that comes to my mind

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 45 points 1 year ago

Yes but lemmy has nothing to do with Machine Learning.

[-] gelberhut@lemdro.id 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, but as discussed several times here and there Lemmy Devs are pro china and anti USA and they admin lemmy.lm. in this case LM stays for Marxism Leninism.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

That's not true at all. ML was used as an idiological choice as it's the only free TLD you can get and you should not have to pay for a domain name as per Lemmy's creators ideology.

[-] sciawp@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

That’s not true. There are a few other free TLDs. I think five total?

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[-] sciawp@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago

I think it's because ML is a popular shorthand for 'Marxist-Leninist' since they mostly seem to be communist servers

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[-] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago
[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I'm guessing because it's sort of an alliteration on lemmy?

[-] CompadredeOgum@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 year ago

It was free

And

Lemmy creators are Marxist Leninists

[-] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Theyre tankies, thats why.

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[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know a ton about DNS and its technical functionality, not necessarily the regulations guiding registrars, but the technician in me says your TTL (how long other servers wait until asking where xyz.ml points to) hasn’t expired, maybe? Perhaps the government administration process simply hasn’t executed any action against those particular registrars yet?

I never liked TLDs that are from random islands or less than stable countries and there are so many great TLDs available now, I simply don’t see the reason to use such obscure TLDs just for the marketing factor.

[-] hitagi@ani.social 12 points 1 year ago

Thanks for answering. I figured it was a registrar thing. How bad do you think the situation will be for other .ml domains?

I'm guessing fmhy.ml was using Freenom but lemmy.ml and lemmy.ml were using a different domain registrar, hence the situation right now.

[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Yeah, not a good situation.

The main story I found seems to indicate that many government communications have been misdirected due to the typo of .ml instead of the intended .mil - reserved for the US military. 🤦‍♂️ There has been an entrepreneur that holds the contract to manage Mali’s country domain and that’s expiring Monday (24th?). I’m assuming the government is not renewing the contract and will instead be taking over the domains and any related data. He has been collecting some of that data and warning the US government about the issue to no avail…for 10 years.

Control of the .ML domain will revert on Monday from Zuurbier to Mali’s government, which is closely allied with Russia. When Zuurbier’s 10-year management contract expires, Malian authorities will be able to gather the misdirected emails. The Malian government did not respond to requests for comment.

Their contents include X-rays and medical data, identity document information, crew lists for ships, staff lists at bases, maps of installations, photos of bases, naval inspection reports, contracts, criminal complaints against personnel, internal investigations into bullying, official travel itineraries, bookings, and tax and financial records.

ICANN is the body responsible for the gTLD initiative, which gives you names like .social and .world. They are an American non-profit with a multinational committee, handling nearly all of the databases that store our Internet address records, etc., you can be relatively assured that your domain won’t be messed with.

The instances really have no option here than to test out moving their systems to an alternative domain and “bench test” their migration to discover a path that works or a least come to the conclusion to start all over.

[-] sciawp@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Holy shit this is actually kind of a huge story

[-] Crismus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Totally understandable incompetence from the military.

I think I only have a few original pages from my service. Most just disappear.

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[-] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Lmao if the US military gets phished by a domain typo they deserve it.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I never liked TLDs that are from random islands

I remember reading somewhere that Tuvalu gets like 10% of their entire yearly income from Twitch.

I now pronounce Twitch as Twitch dot Tuvalu, but I get weird "huh?"s when I say it like that.

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[-] BarterClub@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

You can see all but posts and comments won't be on their server until back online that are a few it went down. So I can visit my communities like https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/c/artwork that I mod. I can see it but nothing will happen until it comes back online. That's what understand at least.

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