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Over 2 percent of the US’s electricity generation now goes to bitcoin::US government tracking the energy implications of booming bitcoin mining in US.

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[-] doylio@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah I'm pro PoS in general, but I don't think we should forbid people from running PoW on their own computers. Seems like a step too far.

Side note, what's wrong with Ethereum's PoS in your opinion?

[-] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah, I was never for banning PoW. I just don't like it since I know same or better can be achieved with a well designed PoS.

Ethereum PoS has slashing so people are scared to stake thus causing low participation rate. Also, in Ethereum, you need a minimum amount of 32 ETH to solo stake. Ethereum also doesn't have a native liquid staking and has locking, unlike Cardano. And you can't delegate your coins without giving up custody of them. Cardano PoS is designed completely differently and is natively liquid with no locking, no min amount to stake, native delegation and both delegation and self-staking is risk free when it comes to your balance. Worst case - you miss out on those 3.5% rewards for the period your balance is delegated to a pool that's not doing its job. All of this is the reason staking participation is like 65% in Cardano. Would probably be even higher if it wasn't for lost coins and large whale wallets that are not staking/delegating for some reason.

[-] doylio@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

I think the 32 ETH lockup + slashing does make it riskier to stake, but it also makes the chain more secure. As a malicious Ethereum staker, every failed attack costs me a lot of money. As a Cardano staker, I can attempt an attack many times because there I don't lost that much if it fails.

The lack of liquid staking is the only real drawback I see here, as it has allowed some centralization in the Lido token. Ethereum has yet to address that issue

[-] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, but people are just gonna leave your pool if you try to attack the network or miss blocks. (And good luck attacking the network where even the largest 2 entities Binance and Coinbase together only have about12% of block production (stake)).
Like... ye, it's not happening.
And why would you attack a network (if you could) where your value is stored. It's a suicide.
If you did have so much stake, it might be smarter to play by the rules.

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