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I want to add, most of the program you can think of is in the store (most of the time, by default!), including many properties tools used in industry.
Slack, Microsoft Teams, Zoom, spotify, discord, signal, thunderbird, chrome, firefox, brave, steam, OBS and many more are all installable with one click!
This store is the only store that is actually usable across all three major OSs.
Just saying that, because people coming from other OSs have a hard time believing a usable app store on desktop can exist.
I use Lubuntu for my home theatre PC, typically with a wireless mouse. But the amount of times I had to pull out the keyboard and open a terminal and add repositories and then apt get update all and then reboot and then try to install my program and then turns out I added the repositories for the wrong version of Ubuntu and now I gotta add the right one and also I can't double click someting cause it will open it up as a text file instead of an executable.
Look, I like Linux. This isn't a bad faith propaganda. I honestly think Linux could replace Windows if the developers tried, just tried, to make it user friendly. I work with multple programming languages daily, I'm not computer illiterate, but I appreciate ease of access. When I was a kid, you could install and run things easier on DOS than on Linux today. Why is it so hard to make an installer? Every answer I get on this subject is either whataboutisms or gatekeeping.
You can add repositories through GUI.
The reason installers are uncommon is a similar reason installers are uncommon on phones. Security and convenience. When your system is based around a unified "app store" system installers are generally not preferred because they bypass that and then the package manager can't do anything about the program, and simply that the package manager provides a better experience overall.
Of course on Debian or Debian based distributions you can also download and install .deb files similarly to downloading a .exe installer on Windows, but that's not preferred.
And developers of multiple DEs like Plasma, Gnome, etc, absolutely make it easy to use. I use Plasma, and it is incredibly intuitive.
Yeah, the repo shenanigans are something I definitely do not miss from my Ubuntu days. The simplest solution would probably be to look for flatpaks or snap packages instead.
Watch it friend. That middle ground double speak will get you ratioed here
As a computer programmer, I'm assuming you're aware of the right click option to mark a file as an executable?
Also, Ubuntu has a GUI for repositories management.
If you were a computer novice then I could maybe understand your criticisms more.
Sweet, then you agree that computer novices have real grievances regarding Linux's usability?
A novice would have a learning curve for anything new that they just started to use.