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The Virginia House of Delegates approved an assault weapons ban on a party line vote Friday.

Fairfax County Democratic Del. Dan Helmer’s bill would end the sale and transfer of assault firearms manufactured after July 1, 2024. It also prohibits the sale of certain large capacity magazines.

“This bill would stop the sale of weapons similar to those I and many of the other veterans carried in Iraq and Afghanistan,” Helmer said.

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[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

and the long history of pro-gun candidates stripping rights from people,

So, what you're saying here is that people are having to make choices about which rights they want. That's not a very strong argument, IMO. I don't like Republicans trying to strip rights from LGBTQ+ people, or trying to cram religion down my throat. I don't like Dems trying to take my guns. Civil rights are civil rights, end of story.

Bomb attacks just aren’t happening

Patently false. Theodore Kaczinski is perhaps the most famous one, but there was also the Weathermen, the Boston Marathon, at least one attempt on the World Trade Center, the McVeigh/Nichols bombing in Oklahoma City, the Columbine murderers had improvised bombs that failed to explode, women's health centers, historically black churches... The list goes on, and on, and on. Bombs have been used in many, many cases, and in some of the worst mass casualty events in US history. (The Oklahoma City Bombing killed 168 people; the 2017 Las Vegas shooting killed less than half of that.)

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

So, what you're saying here is that people are having to make choices about which rights they want.

If that's supposed to be my view, then I guess yours is "rights are granted by slavers and rapists 300 years ago and may never be changed for any reason, even as public attitudes switch".

Patently false. Theodore Kaczinski is perhaps the most famous one, but there was also the Weathermen, the Boston Marathon, at least one attempt on the World Trade Center, the McVeigh/Nichols bombing in Oklahoma City

Sure, we can play the list game if you want. You name a bombing, I'll name a shooting and we'll see who runs out first. If you want to play hard mode, we can limit it to the last 10 years.

Columbine murderers had improvised bombs that failed to explode

So in in other words, the only reason anybody died at Columbine was because they had guns.

The killed 168 people; the 2017 Las Vegas shooting killed less than half of that

Sure, we can play the numbers game too. We can start at Oklahoma and count up "bombs vs guns" since. Honestly though, do we even need to? By your own admission, a single "responsible gun owner" got half way to a literal truck full of explosives that demolished a building.

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