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I don't think Republicans care about what Trump did. Trump is the favorite to win the republican nomination and its not even close. And Republicans sure as shit aren't voting for Biden.
I think he's trying to get swing and less like to vote votes, not appeal to the loony party
Youre correct, this message isnt for the GQP, this message is for those that dont want to go out and vote
Enormous divisions are showing within the GOP as the unreasonable forces are gaining ground, but the old guard knows how insane and fascist this path is.
That part of the GOP is sizable and realizing they don't need to follow along the same path as the fascists. Give those people a soft landing, not a harsh criticism, and they'll join your decision that they don't want the future presented to them.
What a fancy way to say, "please dont punish us for spending the last 8 years supporting a rapist who our members of the House voted to support in an attempt to overthrow democracy!"
Punish? Where'd that come from
Youre assuming punish in the most direct sense of the word.
Im not talking about beating people in the streets.
Yeah I didn't take issue with the definition or literal use, it's that what that person wrote doesn't correspond with what you said with any interpretation of "punish".
His point is that they FEAR punishment. 🤦
His point is that they FEAR punishment. 🤦
Are you interested in a better future for everyone, or punishing the spectrum of those who you feel were led to make decisions you don't agree with?
You can't have both.
How can we trust they won’t turn around and do it again immediately?
Like I agree in principle with you, but I have no trust left
The point is to wear each other out. They're just people, talk to them and give them education and safe spaces to discuss ideas.. it's not the fair idea, but it's the idea that breaks the system of hate keeping us at each other's throats, too busy with an ideological war to fight the class war that'll free society.
If you think there exists a "safe" space to discuss fascism, and overthrowing democracy, then you really have no concept of what's happening in this country right now.
Last time we went easy on traitors, they built memorials to their traitorous scum leaders and created the "lost cause" concept that is ruining our country to this day.
The safe space needs to exist for them to bring it up and not feel threatened into defending their position, but allowing them to question their beliefs in a way to helps them see the hippocracy of their positions.
A black guy got dozens of KKK members to stop being racist by talking to them. I'd argue that his methods can be utilized here.
Kind of like that we did with the south after the Civil War?
How did Reconstruction end up going again...?
Lol fuck off
There is a growing group of never-Trump Republicans that have already stated that they will vote for Biden if Trump wins the nomination. The party at the top though is on board 100% though as they see Trump as their ticket to power, and none of them actually want to believe he will gut the party if he wins since he will no longer need them post election.
It's Bush Syndrome.
Where, Bush is just simply the dumb puppet who's allowed to do and say whatever he wants. All the while, the Republican crooks do their work behind his back.
Trump was supposed to be a puppet like Bush. While he was for things like appointing judges, he definitely went off the rails and hijacked the party. The senior leadership certainly didn't want Jan 6th happening.
Trump is no puppet. He lashes out randomly, and sicks his mob on anyone that opposes him.
He's pootin's puppet
Well that's exactly the point. Why waste time and energy on a lost cause? It's equally as absurd that there are swing voters to me, but hey, some people don't even know an election is happening soon.
Elections are decided by swing voters.
40% will always vote down their line regardless of what is presented to them. Those few thousand people willing to switch sides will always determine the path of the country, which is why such enormous resources are sent to court them.
I would say it's a combination of swing voters and voter turnout. Some people can be convinced to switch sides, and others just need to be convinced to participate.
Trump is also leading against Biden in poll after poll now, so they don't see any reason to switch horses.